Derive time for relativity (i know how but not sure what to do i got a idea

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The discussion revolves around deriving time in the context of relativity, specifically using Lorentz transformations. Participants are exploring the relationships between time and space coordinates in different reference frames.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate equations related to Lorentz transformations but encounters difficulties in their approach. Some participants suggest deriving relationships instead of dividing variables. Others inquire about setting up derivatives and the implications of length contraction in different directions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on specific concepts. There is an indication of productive exploration, particularly regarding the relationships between time and spatial coordinates, though no consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or seek. There are also questions about specific formulas and concepts, such as the Lorentz relation for length contractions, that remain undefined in the discussion.

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Homework Equations



equation 37.23 37.30 are the following

37.23
x'=gama(x-vt) x= gamma(x'+vt')
t=gamma(t-vx/c2) t'=gamma(t'+vx'/c2)

37.30
u'=(u-v)/(1-uv/c2) u=(u'+v)/(1+uv/c2)

The Attempt at a Solution



i tried the following...

since d=vt... i solved fot t=d/v

so (x'/u')=gama(x-vt) /((u-v)/(1-uv/c2)) but its not working can someone tell me where I am going wrong
 
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but... now i see that i would have to derive instead dividing

like...dx'/du'

but I am not sure how..
 
any1
 
could soneone help me set up dx/dv pls
 
If you know the Lorentz relation for the length contractions, you can substitute one into the other and solve for a relation between t and t' (you should also end up with a spatial dependence in there).

For the second part, you would not expect spatial contractions along the y-direction since it is orthogonal to the direction of the relative velocity. Though, you could still expect a time dilation; so the derivation for uy to uy' would be the same way as done with ux to ux', except that you do not need to take into account a length contraction for the y-direction.
 
can you tell me what this is Lorentz relation for the length contractions..mean the formula
 

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