Deriving the Lens Maker formula of a plano-convex lens using Fermat's Principle

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lens Maker's formula for a plano-convex lens using Fermat's Principle. Participants emphasize the importance of differentiating the time taken by light rays with respect to the height variable, h, to ensure that all rays take the same time to traverse the lens. The conversation references Richard Feynman's lectures, particularly his derivation of Snell's Law, which provides foundational insights into the behavior of light through lenses. The conclusion is that by considering rays from a point source at infinity, one can establish that varying h leads to rays that maintain equal travel times through the lens.

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  • Understanding of Fermat's Principle in optics
  • Basic knowledge of plano-convex lens geometry
  • Familiarity with differentiation techniques in calculus
  • Awareness of Snell's Law and its derivation
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  • Study the derivation of Snell's Law from Fermat's Principle as presented in Feynman's Lectures
  • Explore the mathematical formulation of the Lens Maker's formula for different lens shapes
  • Investigate the implications of ray tracing in optical systems
  • Learn about the effects of varying focal lengths in plano-convex lenses
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I only need help on part c. I tried to add up t1 and t2 and differentiate it. However what variables should I differentiate with respect to? If I differentiate with respect to f I got f=root(2) * h, if i differentiate with respect to R i get R tends to infinity. What should I do?
 

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You want different rays all to take the same time. What parameter selects different rays?
 
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TSny said:
You want different rays all to take the same time. What parameter selects different rays?
I should differentiate with respect to h. However, why do different rays all take the same time? Shouldn't there be different quickest light path for different h?
 
Clara Chung said:
I should differentiate with respect to h. However, why do different rays all take the same time? Shouldn't there be different quickest light path for different h?
Feynman has a nice discussion here
http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_26.html

You can skip to the paragraph just before Fig 26-9 and read this as well as the next paragraph. (But if you do skip, you will miss Feynman's derivation of Snell's law (eq. 26.4) from Fermat's principle that doesn't use calculus!)

To relate this to your problem, you will want to consider the point ##P## as placed "infinitely far" to the left of the lens. Then ##P'## will be at a focal point of the lens. All the rays from ##P## that pass through the lens will be essentially horizontal. So, changing ##h## will correspond to different rays from ##P##. There will also be different rays that hit the lens in a circle at the same ##h## corresponding to rotating the figure about the horizontal axis of the lens. But, by symmetry, these will clearly take the same time from ##P## to ##P'##.
 
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