Describe absorption experiment to distinguish 3 radiations

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The discussion revolves around designing an absorption experiment to distinguish between alpha, beta, and gamma radiation, including the use of diagrams and detectors. Participants explore the properties of these types of radiation and how they interact with different materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the effectiveness of various materials for stopping different types of radiation, such as paper for alpha particles and aluminum for beta particles. There is consideration of the thickness of absorbers and the importance of accounting for background radiation in measurements.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants raising important points about the penetration of radiation and the need for specificity in the experimental setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of absorbers and the role of the Geiger counter, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the effectiveness of absorbers can vary based on the energy of the particles, and there is mention of the need for a diagram to illustrate the experiment. The discussion also touches on the limitations of general rules for identifying radiation types in different contexts.

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Homework Statement


I could not fit the whole problem typed out but;

Describe with a diagram, an absorption experiment to distingush between alpha, beta and gamma radiation.

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Source, absorbers placed in front of suitable detector.
How results identify the source
Allowance for background radiation

The above is a more general answer.

Could I also use the below in my answer:
Alpha can be stopped by a sheet of paper, beta, by aluminum, and gamma by concrete.
Geiger counter alternatively.

I am having difficulty using a diagram too.

Thanks
 
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It gets a bit tricky because a high energy alpha particle may penetrate as far as a low energy beta particle. You'll have to decide if that is important.
The thickness of the absorber is also important ... how much paper, how much aluminium, how much concrete?

Of course you need to be specific: you have to explain how you account for background radiation, how the absorbers identify the source type, and how you use the geiger counter.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
It gets a bit tricky because a high energy alpha particle may penetrate as far as a low energy beta particle. You'll have to decide if that is important.
The thickness of the absorber is also important ... how much paper, how much aluminium, how much concrete?

Of course you need to be specific: you have to explain how you account for background radiation, how the absorbers identify the source type, and how you use the geiger counter.

All good points.

alpha ~ 0.2mm of paper
beta ~ 1mm Pb/1-10 mm Al
gamma ~ 1-10cm of Pb/Several m of concrete

Measure initial count and discount it from the radiation present?

Could you not just use paper for example, alpha won't be able to penetrate it then say that, that radiation is obviously alpha?

THanks for your help.
 
Could you not just use paper for example, alpha won't be able to penetrate it then say that, that radiation is obviously alpha?
How far a particle penetrates depends on how much charge it has and how much kinetic energy it has.
But you are generally correct ... if you know you have moderate energy particles, say from nuclear decay, then whatever is stopped by a sheet of paper is alphas, whatever is stopped by a few cm of iron is betas, and anything else is gammas. But this is a rule of thumb. If, for eg, you want to identify the particles in a cosmic ray source, then this rule won't work.

Note: Gamma ray shielding is usually made out of lead.
 
Simon Bridge said:
How far a particle penetrates depends on how much charge it has and how much kinetic energy it has.
But you are generally correct ... if you know you have moderate energy particles, say from nuclear decay, then whatever is stopped by a sheet of paper is alphas, whatever is stopped by a few cm of iron is betas, and anything else is gammas. But this is a rule of thumb. If, for eg, you want to identify the particles in a cosmic ray source, then this rule won't work.

Note: Gamma ray shielding is usually made out of lead.

Interesting idea I had not thought about that.

Yes I gather that. Thank you for your help.
 

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