Design Steel Pole: 3 Segment, 50ft, Max Wind 110mph

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a three-segment steel pole intended to support various equipment while withstanding a maximum wind speed of 110 mph. Participants are exploring the calculations needed for load-bearing, segment diameters, and material thickness, as well as considerations for wind load and structural integrity.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the dimensions and weights of the equipment to be supported by the pole and proposes initial diameters and gauges for the segments.
  • Another participant suggests that the design must consider whether the mast will be free-standing or supported by guy wires, emphasizing the importance of strong connections between segments.
  • A participant notes that the size and placement of the equipment will affect wind load calculations and suggests preparing a bending moment diagram to analyze stresses and deflections.
  • There is a clarification regarding terminology, with one participant explaining that a long vertical pole is often referred to as a mast, which is a common usage in engineering contexts.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with finding pole dimensions after creating a rough bending moment diagram.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the appropriate dimensions and material specifications for the pole segments. There are multiple viewpoints regarding the impact of equipment size and placement on wind load, as well as the need for strong connections between segments.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding wind load calculations, the effects of equipment dimensions, and the structural analysis steps needed to finalize the pole design.

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Homework Statement


I need to design a steel pole in 3 segments.The base segment needs to be
25 ft high , the second segment needs to be 15 ft and the third one 10ft high.So that when mounted on top of one another their total height will be 50 ft.Their diameters need to be within 1.6-7 inches.

The load on the pole will be a 40 kg cabinet at 5 ft , a 1kg equipment at 10ft ,a 5.4 kg equipment at 35 ft, a 3.6 kg equipment at 40 ft and a 2kg light at the top height of 50 ft.The area where the pole will be mounted has a maximum wind speed of 110mph and there will be no snow.I need to calculate the loading on the pole and then calculate the required diameters of the segments and the steel gauge/metal thickness.

Can anyone please help me with this.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Going through the internet a solution that I came up with is to have a diameter of 6 inches and gauge 7(0.18 " /4.76 mm) sheet for the base 25 ft section.
A 5 inches diameter and gauge 9 (0.15"/3.96mm) sheet for the second segment.
A 4 inches diameter and gauge 9 (0.15"/3.96mm) sheet for the third segment.

But I can not justify if this will bear the load and all.

Also The segments will be joined to each other through plates and the pole will be joined to the ground through a base plate,anchor bolts and a foundation.
 
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Free standing it is, no guy wires can be used.
 
(1) When dealing with wind speed loads the sizes of the equipment boxes will matter - do they present a large or small area to the wind .

(2) Also by how much are they offset relative to mast - are they close to mast or on brackets with significant leverage action .

(3) There are tables available for estimating wind loads .

When you have your loads sorted out you will need to prepare a bending moment diagram . From that and dimensions of tubes you will be able to calculate stresses and deflections .
 
Sorry, but what do you mean by a mast.As for the equipment the largest one is the 600mm X 760 mm which is the cabinet.The rest of the equipment are lights and buzzers which have a small area.

I have made a rough bending moment diagram and have the moment at the ground-line. I don't know how to proceed further and find pole dimensions.
 
A long vertical pole is often called a mast because of the similarity to a ships mast . It's just common usage . I'll use the pole word from now on .

Can you show us your bending moment diagram ?
 
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