Designing a DIY Electron Beam Generator: Vacuum & Helium Questions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and construction of a DIY electron beam generator, focusing on the requirements for creating a vacuum and the choice of gas to be used within the device. Participants explore the technical aspects of vacuum pressure and gas selection, including the potential use of helium and mercury vapor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the necessary vacuum pressure to allow electrons to move freely within the tube.
  • Another participant warns about the health risks associated with using mercury vapor compared to helium and suggests exploring gas-discharge lamps for ideas.
  • Concerns are raised about the purpose of causing the electron beam to circulate, with a question about the implications of angular momentum loss.
  • Some participants suggest that purchasing a used oscilloscope or TV might be a simpler alternative to building the device from scratch.
  • One participant expresses a desire to create the device independently and appreciates the aesthetic possibilities offered by different gases for visual effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and practicality of building a DIY electron beam generator versus purchasing existing equipment. There is no consensus on the specific vacuum pressure required or the best gas to use, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration of these topics.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for trial and error in determining the appropriate vacuum pressure and gas concentration, highlighting the experimental nature of the project.

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This is my first post here so hello to anybody who reads this!

I just finished calculus based physics II this semester and there are a few things I want to design and make for myself to help better my understanding of what I learned in physics. One is device I have seen that generates an electron beam and uses a magnetic field to give the electrons circular motion. The part of it that I am the least comfortable with is the vacuum. The question I have is this: What sort of pressure do I need in the vacuum so that the tube is evacuated enough to allow the electrons freedom to move?

Also, I understand that helium gas will fluoresce when struck by the moving electrons. But how much helium per unit volume is needed? Currently I am considering the use of mercury vapor instead because it would be very easy for me to add a bit of mercury before I evacuate the tube/housing. I would appreciate any opinions on this because I intend to do a complete design before I attempt any assembly.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Mercury vapour is a greater health risk than the Helium and alternatives...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-discharge_lamp may give you some ideas or links.

I assume these are the Teltron ( 3BScientific now own them ) or similar demonstration tubes you are talking about, they normally use Neon (classed as residual amounts)
http://www.3bscientific.co.uk/shop/u.k./physics/teltron,pg_83_675_0_0.html

As for the actual pressures I do not know, but I assume the lower the better ;) and then with the gas it'll be enough to make it visible.
Try it the traditional way... trial and error :D
 
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Why would you want an electronic device to cause the electron beam to cirulate? Unless you want them to radiate due to loss of angular momentum.
 
Why build one? Couldn't you just buy a used oscilloscope or tv?
 
Thanks for the link to the gas-lamp, bsimmo. That did give me some good ideas and I hadn't thought about it before, but different gasses give me different colors so I can go for style too! And I agree with what you said about doing things the traditional way...as far as the pressure goes, all I know is the lower the better and it's looking like I'll just have to put a gauge on it and see what works. And yes! that Teltron thing is basically the same thing I am making. I'm going to look at that closer tonight and see if they give any of the specs.

To Russ, I had thought about doing something like that (at the least getting a heater-cathode/anode set up that way). But I really want to make this all myself...or atleast as much as I can.
 

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