Designing a GPS Device with Optimal Connectivity for Indoor and Outdoor Use

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The discussion revolves around the design of a GPS device that can facilitate indoor and outdoor navigation and communication, particularly for large areas like the Harvard campus. Participants explore various connection technologies suitable for this application, considering both functionality and cost-effectiveness.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a device that allows mobile phones and laptops to connect for navigation and communication within a campus setting, questioning the best connection method.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the purpose of the proposed device, indicating confusion about its functionality.
  • A participant describes their project involving campus navigation and communication, outlining specific features like tracking current location and emergency contact, while expressing uncertainty about the communication technology to use.
  • There is mention of existing GPS tracking devices that transmit location without making calls, suggesting that a GPS-enabled cell phone could serve a similar purpose.
  • Participants share links to GPS modules available for experimentation, indicating potential resources for building a GPS-enabled device.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best communication technology for the proposed GPS device. Multiple viewpoints and questions about the device's purpose and functionality remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness and coverage of various communication methods, such as SMS, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth, without resolving the limitations or assumptions associated with these technologies.

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"GPS" device & connections

Instead of using the satellites like Google Maps, is it possible to come up with a device that any device, such as mobile and laptops can connect and communicate with the device?

In other words, let say Harvard campus. We know its campus is very large in terms of area covered. If I want to make an interactive map for Harvard, both street and inside of buildings (meaning you can also keep track of your location inside the buildings, floor by floor, room by room), what kind of connection is preferable? Bluetooh (class 1 is only about 300 feet max), and wifi is never a considerable choice. Thank you.
 
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I'm not following. A device that other devices (such as laptops and mobile phones) can connect to - so what is the purpose of this device? What do you want it to do?
 


russ_watters said:
I'm not following. A device that other devices (such as laptops and mobile phones) can connect to - so what is the purpose of this device? What do you want it to do?

Sorry if I confused you.

I was referring to a GPS receiver. A receiver communicates with the 27-satellites and eventually when one uses a GPS navigation device such as TomTom's , one can browse and keep track of its location.

Google Maps is an amazing application. Google partners with several companies to work on this project. It is obvious that GPS must has been used to collect information, while we can still use simple mathematical formulas to calculate locations. This I understood.

Now, coming to my concern: please look at this picture first.
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This is a campus application on a Windows Mobile phone, and for example you can see a building called "The Building of Engineering 4".

I am working on a similar project. I want to create an application that can
1. campus and indoor (inside the building) navigation
[] this basically does map navigation, pretty simple

2. campus and indoor Track and Communication
[] keep track of your current location
[] communicate with others and inform them your current location
[] keep track of your path (from A to B)
[] emergency contact


However, there is an issue with connection and communication.

What kind of technology should I use to give the best communication performance?

In other words, we don't want to spend a million dollars to boost our wifi connection, or buy some experience GPS system sitting on our campus. I just start reading about GPS and google maps recently, but I am stuck with the communication method.

The picture was taken from the following paper:
http://cg.yuntech.edu.tw/9517737/9517737.pdf

The application itself uses the system configuration as shown below:
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So most of the communication is done either via SMS (cellular connection), or wifi, or bluetooth.

My concern is, is there any alternative method for which users across the entire Harvard campus can communicate with each other? We could have multiple receiver stations at different location to communicate... but the coverage must be large and stable enough.

I don't know if I am making sense right now. I sometime have hard problem to describe things to people. Sorry.
 
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Oh, you mean a GPS tracking device that you can locate with another device. Google "gps locator": http://www.zoombak.com/

Basically, this device is just a gps enabled cell phone that doesn't make calls but only transmits its position. So you could program an actual cell phone to do the same thing.
 
If you want to experiment with creating a GPS enabled device, there are modules available, such as these:
http://www.parallax.com/Store/Sensors/CompassGPS/tabid/173/CategoryID/48/List/0/SortField/0/Level/a/ProductID/396/Default.aspx"
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce//categories.php?c=17"
http://www.futurlec.com/GPS.shtml"
 
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