Designing an experiment to demonstrate Planck's Law

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The discussion revolves around designing an experiment to measure the intensity versus wavelength of light emitted from a tungsten filament at various temperatures, with the aim of comparing the results to Planck's Law. Participants explore the feasibility of the experiment and the necessary equipment.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster considers using a tungsten filament and discusses methods for measuring light intensity and wavelength. Questions arise about the suitability of the experiment, additional tools needed, and potential problems. Other participants suggest alternative setups, such as using a variable voltage supply and calibrated sensors, and raise concerns about measuring filament temperature and avoiding infrared absorption.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing suggestions and raising questions about the experimental setup. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but various ideas are being explored, including the use of different materials and methods to avoid issues with infrared absorption.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints such as the limitations of using glass in the experiment and the challenges of measuring temperature accurately. There are also considerations regarding the safety of using a tungsten filament without a protective bulb.

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For my undergraduate physics lab, we are asked to spend 3 weeks (3 3-hour sessions + any time during the week if I need extra time) doing an experiment of our own choosing. The physics department will provide any experimental tools needed within reason.

I have been considering using this time to measure the intensity vs. wavelength of the light emitted from a tungsten filament at different temperatures. I would do this by focusing the emitted light through a lens then separating the wavelengths with a prism and finally detecting the intensity by wavelength with a spectrometer. I would then plot my data against the graph of Planck's law and determine how closely the two fit.

Do you think that this would be a good experiment for this lab? Also do you think there are any other tools I would need? Maybe a voltage amplifier to get the Tungsten to a higher temperature? Can you think of any problems I would have?

Thanks for your help!
 
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Andrew774 said:
For my undergraduate physics lab, we are asked to spend 3 weeks (3 3-hour sessions + any time during the week if I need extra time) doing an experiment of our own choosing. The physics department will provide any experimental tools needed within reason.

I have been considering using this time to measure the intensity vs. wavelength of the light emitted from a tungsten filament at different temperatures. I would do this by focusing the emitted light through a lens then separating the wavelengths with a prism and finally detecting the intensity by wavelength with a spectrometer. I would then plot my data against the graph of Planck's law and determine how closely the two fit.

Do you think that this would be a good experiment for this lab? Also do you think there are any other tools I would need? Maybe a voltage amplifier to get the Tungsten to a higher temperature? Can you think of any problems I would have?
The lamp temperature can be set by using a variable voltage supply. How about a 12 volt halogen bulb to obtain bluish light, as you can dim it down to give IR only? You need calibrated sensors for the optical and IR spectrum. You probably cannot go very much into the IR spectrum because glass absorbs long wavelength IR. How will you measure filament temperature (apart from measuring wavelength!)? Maybe you could find the temperature by measuring the voltage and current to find its resistance and compare this with the resistance in normal operation.
Thanks for your help!
 
Is there a way that I could use a tungsten filament without the bulb/glass to avoid the infrared light being absorbed without the tungsten catching fire? Or is there another material that I could use to get a nice full Planck curve?
 
Andrew774 said:
Is there a way that I could use a tungsten filament without the bulb/glass to avoid the infrared light being absorbed without the tungsten catching fire? Or is there another material that I could use to get a nice full Planck curve?
I think a tungsten filament will work in air up to dull red, or evn organge with short.
Andrew774 said:
Is there a way that I could use a tungsten filament without the bulb/glass to avoid the infrared light being absorbed without the tungsten catching fire? Or is there another material that I could use to get a nice full Planck curve?
If you smash the glass envelope of a Tungsten bulb. I think the filament will operate in air for some time if you keep it to red or orange. You need to experiment. May I mention that I have found that glass lenses etc tend to warm up during an experiment, and then radiate IR.
 

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