Designing using Impact Energy of Plastics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a plastic scrap grinder, specifically focusing on the calculations needed to determine the force required to shear plastic using impact energy values such as Izod and Charpy. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical implications related to material properties and design parameters.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how to use impact energy values to calculate the energy dissipated in shearing plastic, which is crucial for determining the required force for the grinder.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to consider the toughest plastic in worst-case scenarios, suggesting that calculations should account for the most challenging material properties encountered.
  • A question is raised regarding the method of calculating the area over which the force is applied, with a comparison made to a sanding drum that applies a uniform force.
  • The original poster clarifies that the design is intended for granulating sprues from injection molding machines and describes specific parameters, including the thickness of the plastic and throughput considerations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of considering the toughest plastic for calculations, but there is no consensus on the specific methods or calculations to be used for determining the required force.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about material homogeneity and the specific conditions under which the grinder will operate. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps needed to derive the required force.

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Hi, I am attempting to design a plastic scrap grinder. To begin my calculations I need to know the force needed to shear a certain area of plastic. After noticing that by using the shear stress equation would result in a huge, unrealistic force, it came to my mind that the plastic will be cut by impact since the grinder is composed of a rotor, rotating at 1200 rpm.

How can I use values of impact energies (Izod / Charpy etc.) to determine how much energy is dissipated in shearing a certain area of this material and thus deriving the required force?

Thanks
 
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You know that it won't be homogenous, right? You have to figure for the worst-case scenario, which means the toughest plastic that you'll ever encounter. Anything less is a walk in the park. As to the math part, I have no idea.
 
raniero said:
After noticing that by using the shear stress equation would result in a huge, unrealistic force

How are you calculating the area over which the force is applied? Is the grinder like a sanding drum that applies roughly a uniform force over its area of contact with the plastic?
 
I will not be actually building this machine, but my task is to design it. It is intended to granulate sprues from injection moulding machines and other small plastic parts. Yes, I considered the toughest plastic that a typical injection moulding machine uses.

I considered the worst case scenario as a slab of plastic 1cm thick, having a roughly 4cm length per cut. I got a length of 4cm from a calculation which takes into consideration a throughput of 300 kg/hr and a screen mesh having 6mm in diameter holes.
 

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