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The discussion revolves around the process and feelings associated with requesting references from faculty or other professionals. Participants explore the typical experiences and reactions of referees, as well as the concerns about the depth of the relationship between the requester and the referee.

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  • One participant questions how many reference requests faculty typically receive and their usual reactions, suggesting that faculty may feel positively about helping students.
  • Another participant expresses that they would only ask for a reference from someone who knows them well, indicating a personal standard for choosing referees.
  • It is noted that referees often reuse letters with minor adjustments, implying a common practice among faculty.
  • A suggestion is made that providing a resume or CV can help referees write more personalized letters, as it gives them context about the requester.
  • One participant advises asking potential referees if they feel comfortable providing a reference, rather than making a direct request, to avoid putting them in a difficult position.

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Participants express varying opinions on the appropriateness of asking for references and the feelings associated with it. There is no clear consensus on the best approach or the universal nature of these concerns.

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Participants' perspectives are influenced by their personal experiences and may not reflect broader trends or practices. The discussion does not resolve the uncertainties regarding the feelings and practices surrounding reference requests.

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Individuals seeking references, educators involved in writing recommendation letters, and those interested in the dynamics of professional relationships in academic settings may find this discussion relevant.

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Despite having done it quite a few times before, I always get a funny feeling about asking people for references. I want to ask two questions (which I believe many people have):

1. How many reference requests does the average faculty get? What is their usual reaction to being asked?

2. People always worry that the referees they're asking don't know them very well. Is this a universal feeling?

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Often, these questions can be answered just by placing yourself in their shoes. For example, if a student asked me for a reference, usually I'd be happy to help, for their success reflects well on my research and teaching. Then again, this knowledge doesn't seem to comfort me...

Perhaps your answers will.
 
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Once a teacher writes a rec letter for you, they usually only swap out unique aspects of that letter when they have to. In a sense, they only write one letter, so I personally think it isn't that bad.

"People always worry that the referees they're asking don't know them very well. Is this a universal feeling?"

To be honest with you, I wouldn't ask someone for a reference unless they knew me pretty well, whether in the classroom, socially, athletically, etc.

For the few letters I've written, I've been happy (even somewhat honored) to write a letter for them. But again, it depends on the person.
 


Also:

If they agree, it never hurts to give them a copy of your resume/CV. Frequently when i write letters I know the students pretty well and can include anecdotes from the classroom or from other experiences (like research or projects).. but it's nice to see the resume and get an overview (in case I get called... I keep these in a pretty accessible file for quick reference).
 


Very good advice so far, and I'll add one more bit -

When you're not sure, ask someone if they know you well enough to give you a reference, rather than asking for a reference directly. This is generally an easier way to ask , as it doesn't put someone in the position where they might feel bad about telling you 'no'. It also gives them the opportunity to get to know you a little better in the specific context if they do want to write the reference.
 

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