Destructive interference in a speaker value

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The problem involves two speakers emitting sound waves in phase, with one speaker at the origin and the other at (0, 4.00) meters. The task is to find the smallest positive value of x on the x-axis where complete destructive interference occurs, given a wavelength of 1.55 m.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the path difference between the sound waves from the two speakers and question the appropriate value of n for achieving the smallest destructive interference. There is also exploration of the correct application of the path difference formula.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to clarify their calculations and reasoning regarding the path difference and the value of n. There is recognition of potential errors in earlier assumptions, and some guidance has been offered regarding the path difference expression.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and the requirement to find the smallest positive value for x. There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of different values of n on the path difference and the resulting calculations.

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Homework Statement



Speaker 1 is positioned at the origin and speaker 2 is at the position (0, 4.00) meters. They emit identical sound waves of wavelength 1.55 m, in phase. If you stand on the x-axis at (x, 0) meters, what is the smallest positive value for x for which you experience complete destructive interference?

Homework Equations



A^2+ B^2 = C^2
P2-P1= (n+.5)λ
V= λf

The Attempt at a Solution



My main question, though its possibly not where I am going wrong, is would n have to equal 0 for it to be lowest destructive interference?
 
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After plugging in all variables I came up with 9.94, which is incorrect. Is N supposed to equal 0 for this problem?

p1 is from the bottom speaker to the listener and p2 is the hypotenuse
 
The work you did seems to be on the right track, but perhaps use of different notation will clear things up. Since one speaker is located at the origin (0, 0) and the other speaker is located at (0, 4), we do not need the co-ordinates of the Point P1-P2 but rather its distance:

Since the Path Difference/ Wavelength = 0.5 (you had written n+0.5 but since we are looking for the smallest value, 0.5 will work), we can express the path difference as:
x units from the speaker at the origin
Sqrt(x^2 + 4^2) units from the speaker at (0, 4)

Thus: Path difference = Sqrt(x^2 + 4^2) - x
Wavelength = 1.55

The rest is for you to solve.
 
Hmm that gives me the answer I had already come up with which was incorrect, 9.935. Let me make sure I'm following you right

Path difference = Sqrt(x^2 + 4^2) - x

Here I'm plugging in wavelength/2, thus

.775 = Sqrt(x^2 + 4^2) - x
which brings me to
(x+.775)^2= x^2+ 4^2
which eventually goes to
1.55x-15.4=0
Thus x= 9.935. . . which is incorrect.
 
Ahh. I see my mistake. My mistake was assuming that the Path Difference/ Wavelength = 0.5. A value of 0.5 for the P.D./wavelength is not the smallest path difference. From a bit of trial and error, you will see that 2.5 (i.e. n=2, n+0.5 = 2,5) creates the smallest path difference with an answer of x=0.127.

I am sorry I have made such a basic error.
 

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