Determinant proof from abstract algebra

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The problem involves proving that the inverse of a square matrix A has only integer entries if and only if the determinant of A is either +1 or -1. The discussion centers around properties of determinants and matrix inverses within the context of abstract algebra.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the determinant being +1 or -1 and its relationship to the entries of the inverse matrix. There are attempts to establish connections between the determinant of A and the properties of A^-1. Some participants question the validity of certain statements regarding determinants and provide examples to clarify their points.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively engaging in reasoning about the properties of determinants and matrix inverses. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between integer entries and determinants, but there is no explicit consensus on the reasoning required to complete the proof.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original problem assumes A has integer entries, which is a critical aspect of the discussion. There are also mentions of potential counter-examples and clarifications regarding the conditions under which the determinant is considered.

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Homework Statement



Let A be a a square n*n matrix. Prove that A^-1 has only integer enteries if and only if the determinant of A is + or -1.


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general knowledge of determinants

The Attempt at a Solution



Proof:

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Suppose that det(A) = 1 (without losing generality, i.e. if det(A) = -1, then det(-A) = -det(A) = 1, easy enough).
So if det(A) = 1, then it follows that det(A^-1) = 1 because
1 = det( I ) = det(AIA^-1) = det(A) *det(I) * det(A^-1) = 1*1*det(A^-1) = 1, which implies det(A^-1) = 1 (or -1 if det(A) = -1).
Now what?

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Suppose that all the enteries of the matrix A^-1 are integer,...
I have no clue what to do now...
 
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Sorry I did a slight misquote of the website from where I pulled the problem:http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-701-algebra-i-fall-2007/assignments/
first question on first assignment.

Basically, assuming that A is a square matrix with integer entries only; then prove that A^−1 has integer entries if and only if the determinant of A is ±1.

Sorry about that: so your matrix would not be a counter-example because neither it nor its inverse has only integer. Equivalently, if one matrix is all integers with a determinant of +-1 then the inverse of this matrix will also be an integer only matrix with the same determinant.


lanedance said:
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--> A^-1 has only integer entries
so as A^-1 exists, then the determinant of A is non-zero. Think of the effect of elementary row operations on the determinant to reduce the matrix to the identity...
 
also det(-A) = -det(A) is not always true
 
Maybe you can use that det(A^{-1})=det(A)^{-1}...
 
micromass said:
Maybe you can use that det(A^{-1})=det(A)^{-1}...
Exactly. If both A and A^{-1} have integer entries, then their determinants are integers. Find integers, m and n, such that m= 1/n!

Going the other way, if the determinant of A is -1 or 1, use the fact that the entries of A^{-1} are the cofactors of A divided by det(A).
 
Yeah... I see it now, almost... it seems obvious but I may be missing a piece...

Because the determinant operation is only multiplication and subtraction it preserves the integers (from A). On the other hand, we require that det( A^{-1}) =+-1 because 1 = det (I) = det(AIA^-1) = det( A)*det(I)*det( A^{-1}) = (+-1)(1)(det A^{-1})
Now that the det of A^{-1} is +-1 I still don't know why we require the entries to be integers. I see how having integer entries would result in an integer determinant, but I don't see the converse.

Going the other way around, if A^{-1} has integer values then clearly its determinant will be an integer.
Now if we use the fact that det(A)^-1 = det(A^-1) then why should that make det(A) = +-1?
Let d = det(A^-1) where d is an integer. There is nothing that requires det(A)^-1 to be an integer. There are some holes in the logic we have... but we're nearly there...


HallsofIvy said:
Exactly. If both A and A^{-1} have integer entries, then their determinants are integers. Find integers, m and n, such that m= 1/n!

Going the other way, if the determinant of A is -1 or 1, use the fact that the entries of A^{-1} are the cofactors of A divided by det(A).
 

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