Determination of Ca/Mg in orthophosphate-rich solutions

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The discussion centers on measuring calcium (Ca) and magnesium (Mg) concentrations in orthophosphate-rich solutions, specifically those containing up to 250 mg/L of PO43-. Complexometric methods, particularly using EDTA, are preferred despite their interference due to high pH conditions that lead to precipitation of calcium and magnesium salts. The participants highlight the lack of a standard method for addressing these interferences and suggest exploring alternative chelating agents that function effectively at lower pH levels. A reference to a 1961 paper proposing an alternative titration method was also mentioned.

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I want to measure the Ca and Mg concentration in a solution that contains up to 250 mg/L of PO43-. Apparently, orthophosphates interfere with both flame photometric methods and complexometric methods with EDTA (or so I've read). Is there a standard method for measuring Ca and Mg in this type of solution?

I am more preferring complexometric methods at the moment because our atomic absorption spectrophotometer is not functioning well. Thank you!
 
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Complexometry is a gold standard here.

Problem with orthophosphates is that for EDTA titration you need a high pH, and in high pH and in the presence of orthophosphates you can expect precipitation of weakly soluble magnesium and calcium salts. I am not aware of any standard method of dealing with such situations (doesn't mean there is no one, its been ages since the last time I had to deal with these titrations). I would check if there is no other chelating agent that works nicely in lower pH.
 
Borek said:
Complexometry is a gold standard here.

Problem with orthophosphates is that for EDTA titration you need a high pH, and in high pH and in the presence of orthophosphates you can expect precipitation of weakly soluble magnesium and calcium salts. I am not aware of any standard method of dealing with such situations (doesn't mean there is no one, its been ages since the last time I had to deal with these titrations). I would check if there is no other chelating agent that works nicely in lower pH.
I found one paper that proposed an alternative titration method that eliminates orthophosphate interference but it was published in 1961. I was wondering though that there was a standard method that I have not yet read about.
 

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