Determine Convergence/Divergence of Sequence (n^2/(2n+1) - (n^2/2n-1)

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the sequence defined by the expression a_n = (n^2/(2n+1)) - (n^2/(2n-1)). Participants are exploring various approaches to analyze the behavior of this sequence as n approaches infinity.

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  • Some participants express uncertainty about their attempts to analyze the sequence, questioning whether their methods are correct. There are discussions about rewriting the sequence in simpler forms, checking for monotonicity, and considering upper and lower bounds. Others suggest comparing the sequence to simpler sequences or using different mathematical techniques like the ratio test.

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Participants are actively sharing their thoughts and approaches, with some providing feedback on others' methods. There is a mix of attempts to simplify the expression and analyze its limits, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correct approach or outcome.

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Some participants mention the need to rewrite the sequence for clarity and simplicity, indicating that the original form may not be the most effective for analysis. There is also a sense of learning and exploration as participants navigate through their understanding of sequences and series.

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Homework Statement


Determine the convergence or divergence of the sequence with the given a_n . If it converges, find the limit.

\displaystyle a_n = \frac{n^2}{(2n+1)} - \frac{n^2}{(2n-1)}

The Attempt at a Solution


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I am not confident enough with sequence and series to know that I have done this correctly so I am hoping someone can let me know if this is correct and if not, what it is that I am doing incorrectly. I also thought about trying to determine whether or not the sequence is monotonic and whether it has an upper and/or lower bound but wasn't sure if this was necessary.

\displaystyle a_n = \frac{n^2}{(2n+1)} - \frac{n^2}{(2n-1)}

\displaystyle a_n = \frac{n}{(2+\frac{1}{n})} - \frac{n}{(2-\frac{1}{n})}

\displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} a_n = \displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \frac{n}{(2+\frac{1}{n})} - \displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \frac{n}{(2-\frac{1}{n})} <br /> = \displaystyle\frac{\infty}{2} - \displaystyle\frac{\infty}{2} : Divergent

Alternatively, I noticed if I factored out an n^2 from the top and bottom, and took the limit I would be left with:

\displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} a_n = \displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \displaystyle \frac{1}{(\frac{2}{n}+\frac{1}{n^2})} - \displaystyle \frac{1}{(\frac{2}{n}-\frac{1}{n^2})} = \frac{1}{0} - \frac{1}{0} : Divergent

However, neither of these approaches seems correct to me.

Thanks for your help and feedback!

Regards,
AP
 
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ActionPotential said:

Homework Statement


Determine the convergence or divergence of the sequence with the given a_n . If it converges, find the limit.

\displaystyle a_n = \frac{n^2}{(2n+1)} - \frac{n^2}{(2n-1)}

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
I am not confident enough with sequence and series to know that I have done this correctly so I am hoping someone can let me know if this is correct and if not, what it is that I am doing incorrectly. I also thought about trying to determine whether or not the sequence is monotonic and whether it has an upper and/or lower bound but wasn't sure if this was necessary.

\displaystyle a_n = \frac{n^2}{(2n+1)} - \frac{n^2}{(2n-1)}

\displaystyle a_n = \frac{n}{(2+\frac{1}{n})} - \frac{n}{(2-\frac{1}{n})}

\displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} a_n = \displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \frac{n}{(2+\frac{1}{n})} - \displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \frac{n}{(2-\frac{1}{n})}<br /> = \displaystyle\frac{\infty}{2} - \displaystyle\frac{\infty}{2} : Divergent

Alternatively, I noticed if I factored out an n^2 from the top and bottom, and took the limit I would be left with:

\displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} a_n = \displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \displaystyle \frac{1}{(\frac{2}{n}+\frac{1}{n^2})} - \displaystyle \frac{1}{(\frac{2}{n}-\frac{1}{n^2})} = \frac{1}{0} - \frac{1}{0} : Divergent

However, neither of these approaches seems correct to me.

Thanks for your help and feedback!

Regards,
AP

Both of these answers/appproaches are wrong. Before even starting you should re-write ##a_n## in a simpler form. Start by re-writing
\frac{1}{2n+1}-\frac{1}{2n-1}
 
I would factor out the n^2, and then simplify the difference of fractions so that they have the same denominator. If that fraction falls to zero more slowly than 1/n^2, then the sequence is divergent. If it isn't divergent, you could use the ratio test to check for convergence.
 
Thanks for your help, Ray. Are you suggesting that I compare a_n with a simpler sequence b_n such as the one you responded with? Sorry for the confusion, I am still learning these approaches/techniques.
 
I had originally typed out an entire post but it got accidentally deleted so I am just skipping straight to the end. I let f(n)=a_n and substituted for f(x). Combined rational expressions and reduced it to a function of like denominator. Not entirely sure if this is correct either.

\displaystyle f(x) = \frac{x^2(2x-1) - x^2(2x+1)}{(2x+1)(2x-1)} = \frac{2x^3-x^2-2x^3-x^2}{4x^2-1} = \frac{-2x^2}{4x^2-1}

\displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow +\infty} f(x) = \displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow +\infty} \displaystyle \frac{-2x^2}{(4x^2-1)} = -\frac{1}{2} therefore \displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow +\infty} a_n = -\frac{1}{2} :Converges

We can take l'hospital's Rule twice and arrive at -1/2 as well.
 
ActionPotential said:
Thanks for your help, Ray. Are you suggesting that I compare a_n with a simpler sequence b_n such as the one you responded with? Sorry for the confusion, I am still learning these approaches/techniques.

I said exactly what I think you should do---re-write ##a_n##. Don't compare, don't do anything else; just re-write.
 

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