Determine the magnitude of the magnetic field.

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The problem involves three long parallel wires arranged in an equilateral triangle, each carrying a current of 8.00 A, with one wire's current direction opposite to the others. The objective is to determine the magnitude of the magnetic field midway between two of the wires.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the magnetic field contributions from each wire and combines them using trigonometric functions. Some participants question the accuracy of the trigonometric functions used and suggest alternative orientations for the coordinate system to simplify calculations.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup and calculations, with some providing guidance on reorienting the system to facilitate the analysis. There is a recognition of potential errors in the original poster's approach, particularly regarding trigonometric components.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of typos in the trigonometric functions used by the original poster, and the discussion includes suggestions for adjusting the coordinate system to improve clarity in calculations.

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Homework Statement



Three long parallel wires are 3.5 cm from one another. (Looking along them, they are at three corners of an equilateral triangle.) The current in each wire is 8.00 A, but its direction in wire M is opposite to that in wires N and P. Determine the magnitude of the magnetic field midway between points M and N.

Homework Equations



##B = \dfrac{\mu_0 I}{2\pi r}##

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I compute the field due points M and N, which is

##B_{MN} = \dfrac{2\mu_0 I}{\pi d}##

Then, the field due point P is

##B_P = \dfrac{mu_0 I}{\pi d\sqrt{3}}##

Working component wise, I obtain:

##B_x = B_{MN}\cos(30) + B_P\cos(60) = \dfrac{7}{2\sqrt{3}}\dfrac{\mu_0 I}{\pi d}##
##B_y = -B_{MN}\sin(30) + B_P\sin(60) = -\dfrac{\mu_0 I}{2\pi d}##

So we have

##B = \sqrt{(B_x)^2 + (B_y)^2} \approx 9.52 \times 10^{-5}##

But the answer is wrong.
 

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Hello, NasuSama.

Check to see if you got the correct distance for ##r## for wire ##P##. [Nevermind, I think you got it right!]

It looks to me that some of your trig functions are incorrect in finding the x and y components.

You might consider rotating the whole system so that M and N are at the base of the triangle.
 
I am not sure if rotating the system works.

Other than that, I edit my trig functions since I found they are incorrect by typos.
 
If you don't want to reorient the system, then let your x-axis pass through wires M and N and the y-axis pass through P and the midpoint of the line segment MN.
 
TSny said:
I got it!

(1) Turn the system 120##^{\circ}## counterclockwise to get the diagram that looks like the one I uploaded.

(2) Using the 30-60-90 triangle postulate and the magnetic field formula, we get

##B_{MN} = 2B_{M}##
##= 2\dfrac{\mu_0 I}{2\pi \left(\frac{d}{2} \right)} = \dfrac{2\mu_0 I}{\pi d}##

##B_{P} = \dfrac{\mu_0 I}{2\pi \left(\frac{d\sqrt{3}}{2} \right)} = \dfrac{\mu_0 I}{\pi\sqrt{3}d}##

(3) Thus, by the Pythagorean Theorem, we have

##\sqrt{(B_{MN})^2 + (B_{P})^2} \approx 1.90 \times 10^{-4}##
 

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Looks good!
 

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