Determine the tangential and radial acceleration of the car

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The problem involves a car accelerating uniformly in a semicircular arc at the Indianapolis 500, transitioning from rest to a speed of 250 km/h while navigating a turn with a radius of 230 m. The goal is to determine the tangential and radial acceleration of the car at the halfway point of the turn, assuming constant tangential acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for angular velocity and acceleration, with one noting uncertainty about the angle used in the calculations. There is a mention of the formula for radial acceleration and its relationship to the radius and angular velocity.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights into the formulas for tangential and radial acceleration. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the angle of the car's movement through the semicircular path, and multiple interpretations of the angular displacement are being explored.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations and the assumptions made regarding the angle of the turn. There is an ongoing discussion about the appropriate formulas to use for radial acceleration.

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Homework Statement


A car at the Indianapolis 500 accelerates uniformly from the pit area, going from rest to 250 km/h in a semicircular arc with a radius of 230 m.

Determine the tangential and radial acceleration of the car when it is halfway through the turn, assuming constant tangential acceleration.

r=230m
v1=0 m/s
v2= 250km/h --> 69.44m/s

Homework Equations



a=r [tex]\alpha[/tex]

Vtangent=[tex]\sqrt{\frac{GM}{r}}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



w1= [tex]\frac{v1}{r}[/tex]=0

w2=[tex]\frac{v2}{r}[/tex]=[tex]\frac{69.44m/s}{230m}[/tex]=0.302rad/s

(.302)2= 02 + 2 ([tex]\pi[/tex]/2) [tex]\alpha[/tex]

[tex]\alpha[/tex] = .02903 radan/s2

I got this for my TANGENT: (230m)(.02903radan/s2) = 6.68m/s2

and this is my RADIAL:[tex]\alpha[/tex] = 0.0290m/s2

I'm not sure if I did the problem right. My answers seem wrong. Please help me =]
 
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Hi kblue!1,

kblue!1 said:

Homework Statement


A car at the Indianapolis 500 accelerates uniformly from the pit area, going from rest to 250 km/h in a semicircular arc with a radius of 230 m.

Determine the tangential and radial acceleration of the car when it is halfway through the turn, assuming constant tangential acceleration.

r=230m
v1=0 m/s
v2= 250km/h --> 69.44m/s

Homework Equations



a=r [tex]\alpha[/tex]

Vtangent=[tex]\sqrt{\frac{GM}{r}}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



w1= [tex]\frac{v1}{r}[/tex]=0

w2=[tex]\frac{v2}{r}[/tex]=[tex]\frac{69.44m/s}{230m}[/tex]=0.302rad/s

(.302)2= 02 + 2 ([tex]\pi[/tex]/2) [tex]\alpha[/tex]

The speed of .302rad/s corresponds to when the car has moved through the semicircular path, so I don't think the angle is pi/2 here.

[tex]\alpha[/tex] = .02903 radan/s2

I got this for my TANGENT: (230m)(.02903radan/s2) = 6.68m/s2

and this is my RADIAL:[tex]\alpha[/tex] = 0.0290m/s2

The alpha value is the angular acceleration; the radial acceleration that the question asks for is related to the radius and the angular velocity. What formula does it have?
 
Thanks for replying alphysicist :)

the formula for radial acceleration is V^2/r

The speed of .302rad/s corresponds to when the car has moved through the semicircular path, so I don't think the angle is pi/2 here.

Is it just pi?
 
kblue!1 said:
Thanks for replying alphysicist :)

the formula for radial acceleration is V^2/r



Is it just pi?

Yes, it would be pi (since the speed of 0.302 rad/s is after the car has moved through an angle of pi).


The radial acceleration is v^2/r like you have; this is also equivalent to

[tex] a_r=r\ \omega^2[/tex]
so you can find either v or [itex]\omega[/itex] at the halfway mark, whichever you prefer.
 
Thank you for your help!
 

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