Determine the time the arrow is in flight

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically determining the time an arrow is in flight when shot at an initial speed of 25 m/s to reach a horizontal distance of 30 meters. The discussion centers around finding the launch angles that allow for this distance while considering the effects of gravity.

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  • Participants discuss the need to establish equations for both the horizontal and vertical components of motion. There is an exploration of the relationship between the angle of launch and time of flight, with attempts to derive equations involving these variables.

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Some participants have provided hints and corrections regarding the equations used for vertical motion and the implications of symmetry in projectile motion. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to find the second launch angle, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the challenge of having two unknowns (angle and time) and the need to derive two equations to solve for them. There is also mention of the assumption that the arrow lands at the same height from which it was launched.

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An arrow is shot with an initial speed of 25 m/s (and lands at the same height as its launch height). There are two possible angles at which it chould be aimed so that it goes 30 meters. What are they?

Givens:
v(i)=25m/s
a=-9.8m/s^2
d(x)=30m


I know the first step is to determine the time the arrow is in flight, but I'm not exactly sure which formula to use in order to find time.
 
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In this problem you have two unknown variables, the angle,[tex]\theta[/tex], and the time, t. You need to find two equations involving both of those variables, then you can solve for both of them.

HINT:

You have motion in two directions here. Can you set up an equation of motion for each direction involving [tex]\theta[/tex] and t?
 
since the porabola is symetrical, than v(i)=v(f)
for y components:
t=v(f)-v(i)a
=0a

for x components:
t=d/v
=30m/25cos[tex]\theta[/tex]

therefore:0=30m/25cos[tex]\theta[/tex]
[tex]\theta[/tex]=33.6

So I've figured out one angle but I am unsure how to determine the second possible angle.
 
Your equation for the x direction is correct. Leave it as is.

Your equation for the y direction of motion is wrong. Think about what it says. How can the arrow take 0 seconds to make it's trip?

You solved for t incorrectly. Check your work. Also, I suggest using the highest point as your final point in the y direction. (Why you ask? What is v_fy at the highest point?) Remember that the arrow will hit it's highest point at t/2 seconds, where t is the time of the whole trip.
 
Since v_fy=0 at the highest point:
t/2=(0-25sin[tex]\theta[/tex])/-9.8m/s^2
therefore:
t=2(0-25sin[tex]\theta[/tex])/-9.8m/s^2

but this is not equal to t=30m/(25cos[tex]\theta[/tex])

I am so confused.
 

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