Determine the value of the inductance ?

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The discussion revolves around determining the inductance in a series RLC circuit with a specified applied voltage, frequency, resistor, and capacitor. The problem involves analyzing the phase relationship between the voltage across the capacitor and the applied voltage.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationships between voltage, phase angle, and reactance using trigonometric identities. There are attempts to derive expressions for inductance based on the phase difference and circuit parameters.

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Some participants provide guidance on the use of trigonometric functions to relate the phase angle to circuit components. There is an ongoing exploration of different expressions for voltage relationships and phase angles, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Participants question the assumptions regarding the phase relationships in the circuit, particularly how to express the voltage across the inductor and capacitor in relation to the applied voltage. There is also discussion about potential typos in previous threads affecting the interpretation of equations.

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Determine the value of the inductance ...??

Homework Statement




Consider a series RLC circuit. The applied voltage has a maximum value of 210 V and oscillates at a frequency of 76 Hz. The circuit contains an inductor whose inductance can be varied, a 900 ohm resistor, and a 1 μF capacitor.Determine the value of the inductance such that the voltage across the capacitor is out of phase with the applied voltage by 54◦, with Vmax leading VC. Answer in units of H.

Homework Equations



Cos \phi = XL / Z
Tan \phi = XL - XC / R
w = 2*pi*f
Z2 = R2 + (XL - XC)2



The Attempt at a Solution



First I used the 2nd Eq. Tan \phi = XL - XC / R

(R* Tan \phi)2 = (XL - XC)2

Then I used the 1st Eq. Cos \phi = XL / Z

Z2 = R2 + (XL - XC)2

I replaced (XL - XC)2 with (R* Tan \phi)2

then ,

Cos2 \phi = XL2 / (R2 + (XL - XC)2)

XL2 = Cos2 \phi * (R2 + (XL - XC)2) = w2L2

Then , L = 1.8827 H which is wrong .

Am i in the right direction , if not please point me towards it . Thanks.
 
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Since the voltage across the capacitor is out of phase with the applied voltage, angle between Vc and hence VC - VL and Vmax is 54 degrees.
So tan(54) = R/(XC - XL)
Solve for XL and find L.
 


wow ..thx a ton rl.bhat.

whould u tell what expression must i use if the question says the voltage across the inductor ??

and how did you get Vc-Vl why it not Vl-Vc ??

thanks again ..
 


Since applied voltage leads with Vc, Vc must be greater than VL. So net voltage across reactance should be VC - VL.
If VL leads with the applied voltage then you have to take VL - VC.
 
Thanks again for the clarification.

Hmmmm... why tan(theta) why not cos(theta) ...??

You have answered same question before and i want to understand it 2 ..

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=328964


check the link .

If i was answering the question i would say the answer must be in this form ...

tan(theta)= R / XL-XC

Because it says that Vl is leading so it is greater that Vc like what you 've said ...

But you answered cos(theta)=Xc/Z ,,,,,??
 


In both the treads VC is out of phase with the applied voltage.
So you can write either tanθ = R/(XC - XL) or cosθ = (XC - XL)/Z. In the second thread it was typo.
In LCR circuit always Vmax leads VC and VL leads Vmax. So it does not change expression for tanθ. In your relevant equation the angle φ is the phase difference between the current and Vmax.
 

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