Determine the velocity after collision

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The problem involves three small spheres, A, B, and C, with given masses and initial velocities. Sphere A collides with sphere B, which is initially at rest, and then sphere C moves to the right. The discussion centers around determining the velocities of spheres A and B after their collision, considering the elastic coefficients between the spheres.

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  • Participants discuss the application of momentum conservation and the role of the elastic coefficient in determining post-collision velocities. There are questions regarding the correctness of calculations and interpretations of the elastic coefficient.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, including the possibility of treating the collisions in steps. Some suggest using momentum conservation and energy relations, while others question the definitions and implications of the elastic coefficients involved.

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There is a lack of consensus on the interpretation of the elastic coefficients, with some participants suggesting they refer to kinetic energy loss ratios while others believe they relate to the coefficient of restitution. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the subsequent interactions between the spheres.

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three small spheres, A , B and C with mass of 3kg , 4kg , 7kg respectively are arranged as shown in the figure. Initially , sphere B is placed in static condition,while the sphere A is moving with a velocity of 4u towards B and collides . Then , sphere C move to right with velocity u , the elastic coefficient between A and B is 0.75 , and B and C is 0.5, determine

the velocity of sphere A and B after the first collision . How to do this ?

3(4u) +4(0) = 3V1 +4V2

12u = 3V1 +4V2

V2 - V1 / ( U1 -U2 ) = 0.75

since U2 = 0 ,

V2 - V1 = 0.75 u

12u - 3( V2- 0.75u ) +4V2

14.25u = 7V2 , V2 = 2.035 u , V1 = 1.29u ,

is my ans correct ? i don't have the ans btw
 

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I think that elastic coefficient refers to kinetic energy loss ratio.
 
goldfish9776 said:

Homework Statement


three small spheres, A , B and C with mass of 3kg , 4kg , 7kg respectively are arranged as shown in the figure. Initially , sphere B is placed in static condition,while the sphere A is moving with a velocity of 4u towards B and collides . Then , sphere C move to right with velocity u , the elastic coefficient between A and B is 0.75 , and B and C is 0.5, determine

the velocity of sphere A and B after the first collision . How to do this ?

3(4u) +4(0) = 3V1 +4V2

12u = 3V1 +4V2

V2 - V1 / ( U1 -U2 ) = 0.75

since U2 = 0 ,

V2 - V1 = 0.75 u

12u - 3( V2- 0.75u ) +4V2

14.25u = 7V2 , V2 = 2.035 u , V1 = 1.29u ,

is my ans correct ? i don't have the ans btw
what will occur after that ? sphere A and B sticked together and collide with C or ?
 
Take all together in one step with 3 bodies.
 
theodoros.mihos said:
Take all together in one step with 3 bodies.
can you show how to do that ?
 
Sorry, I'm wrong. IP ask two steps, 1st A collides B and 2nd by B and C are collides.
Take momentum conservation for every step combined with the correct energy relation.
 
theodoros.mihos said:
I think that elastic coefficient refers to kinetic energy loss ratio.
I would think it refers to the coefficient of restitution. This relates to velocity ratios. The fraction of KE retained will be the square of this.
 
I would think it refers to the coefficient of restitution. This relates to velocity ratios. The fraction of KE retained will be the square of this.

For this reason, if we divide velocities after with the same factor, the momentum conservation is not correct.
 

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