Determine whether the following series converes or diverges and find the sum

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The problem involves determining the convergence or divergence of the series given by the sum of the terms (2n + 3n) / (4n + 1) from n=0 to infinity. Participants are exploring various methods to analyze the series, including the integral test and the concept of geometric series.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of the integral test and express uncertainty about finding the sum of the series. There are attempts to relate the series to geometric series, with questions about how to rewrite the terms appropriately. Some participants suggest breaking the series into separate components for analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing thoughts on how to approach the problem. There is a mix of suggestions and attempts to clarify the structure of the series, though no consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed. Some guidance has been offered regarding breaking the series into parts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about factoring terms in the context of sequences and the nature of the series itself, questioning whether it can be treated as a geometric series. There is also mention of constraints related to homework rules and the need for clarity in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


infinity
Ʃ(2n+3n)/(4n+1)
n=0

Homework Equations


We learned the integral test. The p-series. The nth term test.

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured out that the terms are positive and that they approach 0. the first couple of terms are (2/4)+ 5/16+13/64+35/256+...

I think I can use the integral test, but that only tells me whether or not it converges. I think that it does. However, I don't know how to find its sum. If you guys could help me out I would really appreciate it.
 
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Think about geometric series.
 
I know that a geometric series is like a+ar+ar2+ar3+...arn, but I don't know how to re-write this in that form
 
kuczmama said:
I know that a geometric series is like a+ar+ar2+ar3+...arn, but I don't know how to re-write this in that form

Break it up into two problems and factor a 4 out of the denominator.
 
do you mean break it up into two integrals? or would it be like

Ʃ2n/4n+1 +Ʃ 3n/4n+1

Can you break it up like that?
 
I can't find a common r value. I don't think it is a geometric series. So I am pretty lost still.
 
LCKurtz said:
Break it up into two problems and factor a 4 out of the denominator.

kuczmama said:
do you mean break it up into two integrals? or would it be like

Ʃ2n/4n+1 +Ʃ 3n/4n+1

Can you break it up like that?

kuczmama said:
I can't find a common r value. I don't think it is a geometric series. So I am pretty lost still.

Yes you can break it up like that. It makes two separate problems. What about my other suggestion in red above?
 
this is probably a dumb question, but how do I factor something out if it is a sequence. I really don't know how to factor a 4 out of the denominator. like would I multiply the problem by 1/4
 
\frac 1 {4^{n+1}} = \frac 1 4\cdot\frac 1 {4^n}
 
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Ohh ok. Thank you so much. I just figured it out. I now know that the sum is (3/2). I didnt know you could factor it out like that. that helps so much.
 

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