Determing whether this function is onto and one to one

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the function f:\mathbb{C}\rightarrow\mathbb{C}: f(x)=x^2+2x+1 is one-to-one and onto, particularly in the context of complex numbers. Participants explore the implications of the function's behavior in the real numbers on its properties in the complex domain.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss whether the properties of the function in real numbers imply similar properties in complex numbers. There are attempts to show that the function is not one-to-one by considering specific values and representations. Questions arise about how to demonstrate onto-ness using polar representation and Euler's formula.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and counterexamples. Some have made progress in understanding the one-to-one aspect, while others are exploring the onto aspect and how to approach it using complex number properties.

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There is a mention of the relationship between real and complex numbers, with some participants noting that the function's behavior in the reals may not directly translate to the complex case. The exploration of polar representation and the binomial formula is also highlighted as a potential avenue for further investigation.

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Determine whether the function is one to one and whether it is onto. The function is f:\mathbb{C}\rightarrow\mathbb{C}: f(x)=x^2+2x+1.


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Now I know this function in the real numbers is neither one to one and onto. Does that imply its not one to one and onto in the complex numbers? And what if I did have a one to one and onto function in the complex numbers. I can't think of a example but how would I show that?.
 
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bonfire09 said:
Does that imply its not one to one and onto in the complex numbers?
One of those is implied, but the other is not.
You can use real numbers to check this.

And what if I did have a one to one and onto function in the complex numbers. I can't think of a example but how would I show that?.
If you need an example: f(x)=x.
You can show it in the same way as for real functions, you just have to work with complex numbers (so equations like x2=-1 have solutions, for example)
 
So I want to showf(x)=x^2 is not one to one in the complex number so then id suppose x_1=x_2 then let x_1,x_2\in\mathbb{C} where x_1=a+bi (and) x_2=c+di where a,b,c,d\in\mathbb{C}. So f(x_1)=(a+bi)^2=a^2+2abi-b^2 and f(x_2)=(c+di)^2=c^2+2cdi-d^2. But then i don't know what to do from here? Because c and d could be different from a and b or the same.
 
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So I want to showf(x)=x^2 is not one to one in the complex number so then id suppose x_1=x_2 then let x_1,x_2\in\mathbb{C} where x_1=a+bi (and) x_2=c+di where a,b,c,d\in\mathbb{C}. So f(x_1)=(a+bi)^2=a^2+2abi-b^2 and f(x_2)=(c+di)^2=c^2+2cdi-d^2. But then i don't know what to do from here? Because c and d could be different from a and b or the same.

If the function isn't one to one in the reals, it's not one to one in the complex numbers. The reals are basically a subset of the complex numbers. It might be onto. Use polar representation and Euler's formula to show every complex number has a square root.
 
Oh OK. I've never really done that before but I'll mess around with it and see. But if you look in the real' numbera f(x)=x^2 is not onto either since x^2 is always greater than or equal to 0.
 
bonfire09 said:
Oh OK. I've never really done that before but I'll mess around with it and see. But if you look in the real' numbera f(x)=x^2 is not onto either since x^2 is always greater than or equal to 0.

Sure, but x^2 IS onto in the complex numbers. Not the reals. That's what I meant.
 
Did you recognize the binomial formula in your function? This simplifies the problem.
To show that it is not one to one, you can pick some function value (like 4) and show that there are two x such that f(x)=4.
 
I got the 1 to 1 part figured out for f(x)=(x+1)^2. I just gave a counterexample in the reals.' Now I'm stuck trying to prove it is onto.. I'm not sure how to convert this equation into polar form.
 
Can you solve z=(x+1)^2 for x (or at least one option for x)? Is this possible for all complex z?
 
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Yes just by looking at that form there is always going to be atleast one root. So I should solve that for x then and which would give me x=\sqrt{z}-1? Then plug it back in and show it does give me back the z?
 
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For every z, you found (at least) one x such that f(x)=z. That is sufficient.
 

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