Proving or Disproving f(x) = √x as One-to-One and Onto: Homework Statement

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The discussion revolves around the function f(x) = √x and its properties regarding being one-to-one and onto, specifically within the context of real numbers. Participants are tasked with proving or disproving these properties, which involves understanding the definitions and implications of these terms in relation to the function's domain and codomain.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definitions of onto and one-to-one functions, questioning whether the function f(x) = √x meets these criteria given its domain and codomain. There are attempts to clarify the implications of the function being undefined for negative inputs and whether this affects its classification as one-to-one.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on definitions and exploring specific values to test the function's properties. There is an ongoing examination of the reasoning behind the function's classification, with no explicit consensus reached yet on the final conclusions regarding its properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the function's domain being restricted to non-negative real numbers and how this affects its mapping to the codomain of all real numbers. There is also a discussion about whether the function can be considered a valid mapping from ℝ to ℝ given its restrictions.

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Homework Statement


I am supposed to prove or disporve that ##f:\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}##
##f(x)=\sqrt{x}## is onto. And prove or disprove that it is one to one

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I know for certain that this function is not onto given the codomain of real numbers, but I am stuck on the one-to-one definition. I believe that I am supposed to disprove it, but I am not sure.

I say disprove because for a function to be one to one all values in the domain must correspond to a value in the codomain. Since anything less than 0 is undefined, does this make it true that not everything in the domain is defined in the codomain. Or is this reasoning flawed? Do only that value that are defined in the domain matter?
 
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With something that basic, focus on the definitions. A function, f, from set A to set B is said to be "onto" (more precisely "onto B") if and only if, for any y in B, there exist x in A such that f(x)= y. Here, your function is \sqrt{x}, A= B= R. I suggest you look at y= -1.
(And be sure that you understand that, since f(x)= \sqrt{x} is a function, it is "single-valued"- that is, "\sqrt{x}" is NOT "\pm\sqrt{x}".)

For "one-to-one", a function, f, from A to B is said to be "one-to-one" if and only if two different values of x, say x_1 and x_2 cannot give the say "y": if x_1\ne x_2 then f(x_1)\ne f(x_2). Often it is simplest to prove that by proving the "contra-positive": if f(x_1)= f(x_2) then x_1= x_2. Here, with f(x_1)= \sqrt{x}, start with \sqrt{x_1}= \sqrt{x_2}. What can you say from that?
 
TyroneTheDino said:

Homework Statement


I am supposed to prove or disporve that ##f:\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}##
##f(x)=\sqrt{x}## is onto. And prove or disprove that it is one to one

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I know for certain that this function is not onto given the codomain of real numbers, but I am stuck on the one-to-one definition. I believe that I am supposed to disprove it, but I am not sure.

I say disprove because for a function to be one to one all values in the domain must correspond to a value in the codomain. Since anything less than 0 is undefined, does this make it true that not everything in the domain is defined in the codomain. Or is this reasoning flawed? Do only that value that are defined in the domain matter?
What is the domain of your function?
 
HallsofIvy said:
With something that basic, focus on the definitions. A function, f, from set A to set B is said to be "onto" (more precisely "onto B") if and only if, for any y in B, there exist x in A such that f(x)= y. Here, your function is \sqrt{x}, A= B= R. I suggest you look at y= -1.
(And be sure that you understand that, since f(x)= \sqrt{x} is a function, it is "single-valued"- that is, "\sqrt{x}" is NOT "\pm\sqrt{x}".)

For "one-to-one", a function, f, from A to B is said to be "one-to-one" if and only if two different values of x, say x_1 and x_2 cannot give the say "y": if x_1\ne x_2 then f(x_1)\ne f(x_2). Often it is simplest to prove that by proving the "contra-positive": if f(x_1)= f(x_2) then x_1= x_2. Here, with f(x_1)= \sqrt{x}, start with \sqrt{x_1}= \sqrt{x_2}. What can you say from that?
Okay, I take from this because \sqrt{x_1}= \sqrt{x_2}, \sqrt{x_1}^2= \sqrt{x_2}^2, so x1=x2. So this function is one to one because I can prove that . Correct?
 
Yes, that is correct. Notice that if the function had been f(x)= x^2 then f(x_1)= f(x_2) would be x_1^2= x_2^2 from which it follows that x_1= \pm x_2, not "x_1= x_2" so that function is not one-to-one.
 
TyroneTheDino said:

Homework Statement


I am supposed to prove or disporve that ##f:\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}##
##f(x)=\sqrt{x}## is onto. And prove or disprove that it is one to one

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I know for certain that this function is not onto given the codomain of real numbers, but I am stuck on the one-to-one definition. I believe that I am supposed to disprove it, but I am not sure.

I say disprove because for a function to be one to one all values in the domain must correspond to a value in the codomain. Since anything less than 0 is undefined, does this make it true that not everything in the domain is defined in the codomain. Or is this reasoning flawed? Do only that value that are defined in the domain matter?

Is your ##f(x) = \sqrt{x}## even a map from ##\mathbb{R}## into ##\mathbb{R}## at all?
 
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