Determining an expression for an entropy equation

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The discussion focuses on calculating the entropy of mixing for two monatomic ideal gases, A and B, with an arbitrary ratio. The derived expression for the entropy change is delta(S) mixing = -Nk[x ln x + (1-x) ln (1-x)]. The initial assumption that delta(S(A)) equals Nk ln 2 is challenged, as this value applies only to a single gas expanding into double its volume. It is emphasized that as the fraction x changes, the number of molecules of gas A also changes, impacting the calculations. The conversation highlights the need to consider the total volume and apply Maxwell's relation for accurate entropy calculations.
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Homework Statement



Calculate the entropy of mixing for a system of two monatomic ideal gases, A and B ,whose relative proportion is arbitrary. Let N be the total number of molecules and let x be the fraction of these that are of species B. You should find
delta(S) mixing=-Nk[x ln x +(1-x) ln (1-x)

Homework Equations



delta (S(total))=delta(S(A)) + delta(S(B))=2Nk ln 2
S=Nk[ln((V/N)(((4*pi*m*U)/3Nh^2)^(3/2))+2.5]


The Attempt at a Solution



according to my thermal physics text, delta(S(A))=Nk ln 2 . The problem says that in species B , x is just a fraction of N. Then , I think I would have to conclude that delta(S(B))=x/N*(k)*ln(2).

so would my expressison be :delta(S(mixing))=delta(S(A))+delta(S(B))=Nk ln 2+ xk/N*(ln(2))
 
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You can't apply \Delta S_A=Nk\ln 2 to the general problem; that's the increase in entropy for a single gas expanding into twice its original volume. If x can vary, there's no reason to assume the volume doubles.

Also, remember that as x increases, there are no longer N molecules of gas A but rather (1-x)N.

One common way to show your desired relation is to assume that each gas expands from its original volume into the total volume and to use the Maxwell relation


\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial V}\right)_T=\left(\frac{\partial P}{\partial T}\right)_V=\frac{nR}{V}\quad

dS=\frac{nR}{V}\,dV

to calculate the change in entropy.
 

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