Determining average acceleration during point of impact

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the average acceleration of a dodgem car during its impact with a barrier, given its initial and final speeds, the time of contact, and its mass. The subject area is kinematics and dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate equations for calculating average acceleration and net force, with references to F=ma and a=Delta v/Delta t. There is uncertainty regarding the signs of the velocities and how to apply them correctly in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the use of vector signs in calculations and the interpretation of results. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the final answer based on the direction of acceleration, with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for confusion regarding the direction of acceleration and the requirements of any associated programs or systems for answer submission. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's learning process and the challenges faced in understanding the concepts.

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Homework Statement


Hello, new to the physics world, I am trying to self-teach through reading textbooks, videos etc and application.

I came across a problem I do not know how to begin to answer.

A dodgem car of mass 200g is driven due south into a rigid barrier at an initial speed of 5.0 ms^-1. The dodgem rebounds at a speed of 2.0m^-1. It is in contact with the barrier for 0.2s. Calculate:

a) the average acceleration of the car during its interaction with the barrier
b) the average net force applied to the car during its interaction with the barrier.

Homework Equations



I am unsure which equations to utilise: F=ma, a= Delta v/ Delta t or kinematic equations

The Attempt at a Solution



a) a = (-2-5)/(0.2) but for barrier unsure?
b) Fnet= 0.2 X unknown acceleration [/B]
 
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Hello M, welcome to PF :)


a= Delta v/ Delta t is a good one for average a. Delta v is v before - v afterwards. Note that v is a vector, so the before and after have different signs in this calculation. a is also a vector and it should be clear that it points opposite to the original direction of motion of the car !

And you will do fine with F = ma in part b. So not what you write in your attempt: the 0.2 seconds have no place there...
[edit] Sorry, didn't see that it was a toy car. 0.2 kg is ok.

Again, F is a vector. Check the sign using your intuition!
 
Thank you BvU,

It is liberating receiving help from someone when navigating the minefield of physics.

Your guidance is perfectly clear, I am just unsure as to how to incorporate delta T here: if I were to divide the change in velocity (delta V) which appears to be -7 (in the opposite direction as you pointed out! :) ) by the change in time (0.2s?) (Final T - Initial T; 0.2 - 0) I end up with 35ms-2N, however this does not appear to be correct!

Apologies for my rudimentary understanding, I am still grappling with content.
 
Perhaps they want a different direction in the answer: you found ## -2 - 5 ## m/s per ##0.2## s = ##-35## m/s2 If I am correct. This is taking the 5 m/s South as positive. So the answer is ##-35## m/s2 South which you can correctly report as ##35## m/s2 North.

But if the program insists on receiving the acceleration in a southerly direction, then entering ##-35## m/s2 (with or without the S, I don't know) is the only way to get it to approve your answer.

( I'm deducing all this from your " this does not appear to be correct" -- without knowing if there is a computer program involved at all...)

For me your result is impeccable. No need for apologies; on the contrary: kudos for your wanting to learn !
 

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