Determining "boundedness" of particles in an n body simulation

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This discussion focuses on determining the boundedness of particles in an n-body simulation, specifically addressing the limitations of using energy conservation as a criterion. While negative energy indicates boundedness for two-body systems, this principle fails in general cases with multiple bodies, as interactions can lead to energy transfer that allows one body to escape. The conversation highlights the necessity of simulating the system over extended periods, acknowledging that numerical errors can complicate results. Additionally, it emphasizes that for two-body systems, potential functions can be utilized to analyze energy conservation, but this method is insufficient for more complex interactions.

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is there a numerical method to determine whether two bodies will stay bounded forever in an n body simulation? i know if the energy of a particle orbitting the origin is negative, then it is bounded, where -∫(force)dr+(dr/dt)2/2=energy.
but I am curious about a genereral case, where there are more than 2 bodys, and even forces that are not inverse square proportional where i don't necessarily have a potential to subtract kinetic energy from, just the ability to numerically do the line integral of force
∫ [Fx,fy,fz]*[dx/dt,dy/dt,dz/dt] dt
thanks!
 
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As soon as you have more than two objects, that is not possible in general any more. Energy doesn't help - two objects can move to a closer orbit, giving energy to a third (escaping) object, so a total negative energy does not mean the objects have to stay together (but two of them will).

You can simulate the system for a very long time, of course, but then numerical errors are problematic.

For two objects: if you can write down a potential, then you can check if energy conservation allows a separation. Note that this is not sufficient - a 1/r^3-law with two objects for example has circular orbits, but also unstable trajectories leading either to a separation or a collision.
 

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