Determining if set is a real vector space

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The problem involves determining whether a specific set, R^2, with a non-standard definition of vector addition and scalar multiplication, qualifies as a vector space. The original poster expresses difficulty in proving certain vector space properties, particularly the existence of a zero vector and the additive inverse.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definitions of vector addition and scalar multiplication, questioning how these affect the identification of the zero vector and the additive inverse. There is discussion about deriving the zero vector from the given operations and verifying its properties.

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Some participants have offered insights into the definitions and properties required for a vector space, suggesting methods to identify the zero vector. There appears to be ongoing exploration of the implications of the unique definitions provided in the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the conventional zero vector, <0, 0>, may not apply in this context, raising questions about how to define the zero vector under the given operations. There is also mention of axioms related to vector spaces that must be satisfied.

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Homework Statement


The set R^2 with addition defined by <x,y>+<a,b>=<x+a+1,y+b>, and scalar multiplication defined by r<x,y>= <rx+r-1,ry>.

The answer in the back of the book says it is a vector space, but I am having trouble proving that 0+v=v and v+(-v)=0


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My guess is that you take v+(-1)v=0, applying the above definition of scalar multiplication to (-1)v, which gives 0=<-1,0>. Using that definition of 0, then 0+v=v, but I'm not sure if any of that is correct.
 
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The vector 0 is defined as a vector z such that z + v = v for each v in V. It is an axiom that this vector exists, so in showing that a space is a vector space, you must show that there exists such a vector. The easiest way is to directly use your formula for the sum of two vectors:
<x, y> + <z1, z2> = <x + z1 + 1, y + z2> = <x, y>
and solve for z, which must not depend on x or y.
 
Argh! Sorry, I should read more carefully..
 
In this vector space, the "0 vector" is not <0, 0>.

Any easy way of determining what the 0 vector, [itex]\vec{0}[/itex], is is to use the fact, true in any vector space, that [itex]0\vec{v}= \vec{0}[/itex]. (That follows from the "distributive law": [itex]a\vec{v}= (0+ a)\vec{v}= 0\vec{v}+ a\vec{v}[/itex].)

Here, r<x,y>= <rx+r-1,ry>. What do you get if r= 0?
 

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