Determining p and q in Equilibrium

  • Thread starter Thread starter Lavace
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Equilibrium
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the values of variables p and q in the context of three forces acting on a particle in equilibrium. The forces are expressed as vectors, and the equilibrium condition requires that their vector sum equals zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to set the sum of the forces to zero and consider how to formulate simultaneous equations from the vector components. There is uncertainty about how to correctly derive these equations from the given force expressions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on separating the components of the forces and setting up equations based on the i and j components. There is a mix of confusion and clarification as participants work through the formulation of these equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express difficulty in creating simultaneous equations and are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for equilibrium and the presence of multiple unknowns.

Lavace
Messages
62
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Three forces F1, F2 and F3 act on a particle.
F1 = (-3i + 2pj)N F2 = (pi + 3qj)N F3 = (qi - 7j)N

Given that the particle is in equilbirum, determine the value of p and the value of q.


Homework Equations



(-3i + 2pj) + (pi + 3qj) + (qi - 7j) = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, its in equilbirum, so I figured all the forces added together would equal 0. Now, because there's more then one unknown, one thing to do is to use is Simultanious Equations, but I'm finding it difficult cause I'm unsure of how to make the simultanious equations, which is meant to be basic at my level =/.

Any hints/help is very appreciated =) However, it is a Sunday after all ;)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Since force is a vector, each component must be separately equal to zero. So write two equations: one for the i component, one for the j component. Those are the two equations that you'll have to solve simultaneously.
 
Still slightly confused, so essentially is this something along the right lines:
pi = 3i -2pj -3qi -qi +7j

And then the same for qi? But then I'd be wrong, cause it'd be the same statement but with -pi instead of -qi.
 
No. First add up all the i components, set that equal to zero. That's one equation. Then do the same for the j components. That's the second equation.
 
Ahhh! Thank you for all your help!
-3 + p + q = 0 (All the i values)
2p + 3q - 7 = 0 (All the j values)

-3 + p + q = 2p + 3q - 7
4 -2q = p (We now have a statement for p, to sub in)

3 - p = q
3 - 4 + 2q = q
q = -3 + 4
q = 1

Sub 1 into:
3 - q = p
p = 2.

And those are the correct answers!
Thank you for all your help! =)
 

Similar threads

Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
17
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
6K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K