Determining the Optimal Thickness for a 30mH-Solenoid Inductor

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The discussion revolves around determining the optimal thickness for a solenoid inductor designed to achieve an inductance of 30mH. The original poster describes their setup using enameled copper wire wrapped around a rebar and presents calculations related to the number of turns required for the inductor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the number of turns needed for the inductor based on given parameters and questions the appropriate thickness of the copper wire and the validity of their permeability assumption.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided varying insights, with some confirming the number of turns based on the original poster's calculations and others suggesting the need to verify the permeability of the rebar material. There is an acknowledgment of a higher permeability value discovered later in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's calculations are based on an assumed permeability, which has been later corrected by another participant. The implications of wire thickness on resistance are also noted, but not deeply explored.

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Homework Statement


hi, i just have few questions on how to make a 30mH-inductor (solenoid). I have an enameled copper wire which i will wrapped into a 7-inch rebar having 12mm diameter. In order to determine the number of turns, i made some calculations:

Homework Equations


L=(uAN^2)/d

The Attempt at a Solution



My computations are as follows:
L=30e^-3 H
u=100*4*pi*10^-7 (permeability of the rebar=100 (just an assumption))
A=pi*(6e^-3) m^2 (r=12mm/2=6mm=6e^-3 m)
d=0.1778 m

N=613 turns

my question is:
-how will i know what is the thickness of the copper wire I'm going to use?
-and, is my permeability assumption correct? (i don't really know what is the exact permeability of the rebar)

some photos of rebar:
http://www.circlecityrebar.com/istock_rebar6.jpg"
http://rebar.materialsuppliers.com/Rebar-big.jpg"

please help thanks!
 
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thickness of wire doesn't matter, except the fact that it determines the resistance of the solenoid. check the permeability of the material the rebar is made of, on net, just search in google.
 
so, in order to have 30mH, i need to make 613 turns? :eek:
 
if permeability is actually 100, and ur calculations are correct (i have not checked them), then your answer is 613 turns.
 
i've found out that its permeability is 2000.. thanks :)
 

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