Determining voltage gain of instrumentation amplifier

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the output voltage of an instrumentation amplifier given specific input voltages and a common-mode voltage. It includes aspects of homework problem-solving, mathematical reasoning, and clarification of terms related to the circuit's operation.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework problem involving an instrumentation amplifier with given input voltages and a common-mode voltage, seeking to determine the output voltage.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of the common-mode voltage (Vcm), prompting clarification.
  • Some participants propose that Vcm represents a common-mode voltage, which could be a noise signal or a shared signal affecting both inputs.
  • A participant attempts to recalculate the output voltage using the provided formula, indicating a need to reassess the previous calculation.
  • A later reply acknowledges a previous error in calculation and confirms the expected output voltage as 1.005 V, attributing the correction to improved focus after rest.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the expected output voltage of 1.005 V, but there is some uncertainty regarding the implications of the common-mode voltage and its effect on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of the common-mode voltage on the output voltage calculation, and there are missing assumptions regarding the common-mode rejection ratio (CMRR) and other parameters that could affect the final output.

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Homework Statement



The following voltages are applied to the instrumentation amplifier in the figure.
Vin1=5 mV, Vin2=10 mV, and Vcm=225 mV. Determine the final output voltage.

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Homework Equations



R_{1}=R_{2}=R

A_{cl}=1+\frac{2R}{R_{G}}

V_{out}=\left ( 1+\frac{2R}{R_{G}} \right )\left ( V_{in2}-V_{in1} \right )

The Attempt at a Solution



This is an odd-numbered problem in the back of my book, so I know the answer should be 1.005 V.

I already know my initial answer (see below) is wrong because it comes out to 1 V and does not take into account Vcm. Since I'm given Vcm but not Acm, CMRR, or anything else, how do I solve this problem?

Incorrect:
V_{out}=\left ( 1+\frac{2\cdot 100k\Omega }{1.0k\Omega} \right )\left ( 10mV-5mV \right )=1mV
 
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What does Vcm=225 mV represent?
 
I believe it represents a common-mode voltage (a noise signal or some other common signal on both inputs).
 
JJBladester said:
V_{out}=\left ( 1+\frac{2\cdot 100k\Omega }{1.0k\Omega} \right )\left ( 10mV-5mV \right )= ?

Work this out again.
 
That's what I get for working 15 hours of overtime this weekend and trying to get homework done.

Vout = 1.005 V as expected... Amazing what sleep will do for you. Thanks for pointing out the math error!
 

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