Developing Direct Simulation Monte Carlo and I have problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the validation of a Direct Simulation Monte Carlo (DSMC) code, specifically focusing on the viscosity results obtained from a Couette Flow simulation using nitrogen gas at a specified temperature and Knudsen number. Participants explore potential reasons for discrepancies between simulated and expected viscosity values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports a lower viscosity value in their DSMC simulation (1.5e-5) compared to the expected experimental value (1.656e-5) and expresses confusion over this discrepancy.
  • Another participant suggests that instead of comparing to experimental data, the results should be compared to other simulations with similar parameters, recommending the use of open-source DSMC programs as benchmarks.
  • A participant mentions difficulty in finding relevant thesis or simulation data, noting that while they found DSMC-IP data, they specifically need DSMC data, which is hard to locate.
  • One participant points out that OpenFoam has a DSMC solver and provides a link, but expresses uncertainty about the difficulty of using it, given their lack of familiarity with such simulations.
  • The original poster expresses gratitude for the suggestions and indicates they will attempt to use OpenFoam to modify the code for viscosity data extraction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the cause of the viscosity discrepancy, and multiple viewpoints regarding validation methods and data sources are presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to validate the DSMC code.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in data availability and the challenges of finding suitable benchmarks for comparison. There is also an acknowledgment of varying levels of familiarity with DSMC simulations among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals involved in computational fluid dynamics, particularly those working with Direct Simulation Monte Carlo methods and seeking validation techniques or data sources for viscosity in gas flows.

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Please understand my low command of English.

I'm developing Direct Simulation Monte Carlo and I'm now validating.

To validate my DSMC code, I'm checking the viscosity in Couette Flow.

Simulation Condition is, Kn = 0.0056(Near Continuum) and Gas is Nitrogen, Temperature is 273K.

Nitrogen viscosity is approximately 1.656e-5 but in my simulation, viscosity is now 1.5e-5.

I can't understand why viscosity is lower than experimental value.

I have thougt it is caused by cell size. But I set the cellsize as half or quarter of mean free path.

It is common value of DSMC simulation.

I'm now wating for your advice :)
 
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In my opinion, instead of experiment, you should compare your results to someone else's simulation done with the same parameters. Search for some open source DSMC programs and use them as a benchmark.
 
I try to find some thesis or simulation data but It was hard to find that.
I found DSMC-IP data but I need DSMC data. DSMC data is too hard to find.
So I try to compare my result to exact viscosity
 
Thank you for your help. I'll try to use OpenFoam and to modify the code to get the viscosity data. You show me the way
 

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