Did David Hilbert beat Einstein to Relativity?

In summary: How serious were Hilbert's initial restrictions that made the theory non-covariant - could they be seen as just gauge fixing? Or do they lead to equations that are simply incorrect?
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Heard that from one of my math teachers. He said that they were both independently working on relativity but because einstein's mail got to the publishers first, he got the credit for it.
 
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http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jaa/20/91-101%20.pdf .
 
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Hmmm, so it seems that there is no debate that the Hilbert action was first (as judged by date of receipt)?

The only debate is about the field equations, which can be derived from the Hilbert action?
 
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atyy said:
Hmmm, so it seems that there is no debate that the Hilbert action was first (as judged by date of receipt)?

The only debate is about the field equations, which can be derived from the Hilbert action?

That is my understanding. However, it is also my understanding that Einstein initially did not care for derivation from an action, and such an approach had no part in how he derived the field equations. Since the variation of the action is not trivial (though it may seem so decades later), there is also no evidence that Hilbert wrote down field equations before Einstein.

I think a fair summary might be:

1) Hilbert first wrote a correct action, but attached restrictions to it that made it not a covariant theory.

2) Einstein first wrote the field equations (with fully covariant treatment), but did not know, they could be derived from the Hilbert action.

3 Seeing Einstein's final covariant field equations, Hilbert realized they could be derived from his action, and the whole approach made covariant.

4) Later, Einstein accepted the superiority of deriving the field equations form an action.

Also obvious is that Hilbert was able to contribute as he did only by virtue of the presentations Einstein gave him.
 
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PAllen said:
That is my understanding. However, it is also my understanding that Einstein initially did not care for derivation from an action, and such an approach had no part in how he derived the field equations. Since the variation of the action is not trivial (though it may seem so decades later), there is also no evidence that Hilbert wrote down field equations before Einstein.

I think a fair summary might be:

1) Hilbert first wrote a correct action, but attached restrictions to it that made it not a covariant theory.

2) Einstein first wrote the field equations (with fully covariant treatment), but did not know, they could be derived from the Hilbert action.

3 Seeing Einstein's final covariant field equations, Hilbert realized they could be derived from his action, and the whole approach made covariant.

4) Later, Einstein accepted the superiority of deriving the field equations form an action.

Also obvious is that Hilbert was able to contribute as he did only by virtue of the presentations Einstein gave him.

How serious were Hilbert's initial restrictions that made the theory non-covariant - could they be seen as just gauge fixing? Or do they lead to equations that are simply incorrect?
 

FAQ: Did David Hilbert beat Einstein to Relativity?

Did David Hilbert and Albert Einstein have a race to discover the theory of relativity?

Yes, there was a race between David Hilbert and Albert Einstein to discover the theory of relativity. However, it is important to note that the term "race" may not be an accurate representation of what actually happened. Hilbert and Einstein were both working on the theory of relativity around the same time, but their approaches and motivations were different.

Who discovered the theory of relativity first, Hilbert or Einstein?

Albert Einstein is generally credited with discovering the theory of relativity first. His paper, "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies" was published in 1905, while Hilbert's paper on the same topic was published in 1915. However, there is some debate over whether Hilbert's paper was actually completed before Einstein's, as there is evidence that suggests Hilbert may have seen an early version of Einstein's paper before publishing his own.

Did Hilbert and Einstein collaborate on the theory of relativity?

No, Hilbert and Einstein did not collaborate on the theory of relativity. They were both working independently and had different approaches to the concept. However, they did correspond and exchange ideas during this time.

Did Hilbert and Einstein have a friendly relationship?

There is evidence to suggest that Hilbert and Einstein had a cordial relationship, but they were not particularly close. They had different personalities and approaches to science, which may have contributed to any potential tension between them.

Was Hilbert's contribution to the theory of relativity significant?

Yes, Hilbert's contribution to the theory of relativity was significant. He developed a mathematical formalism that helped to clarify and extend Einstein's theory. Additionally, Hilbert's work on the theory of relativity had a significant impact on the development of general relativity and other areas of physics.

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