Did Intellectuals of the 20th Century Undermine Emotion?

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The discussion centers around the role of emotion in human life and the perceived influence of twentieth-century intellectuals on the perception of emotion versus reason. Participants explore the historical context of emotion in philosophy and science, questioning whether intellectuals have undermined the importance of emotion in favor of rationality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants claim that twentieth-century intellectuals engaged in a "cabal" to emphasize reason and diminish the role of emotion, referencing Damasio's views on the historical treatment of emotion in philosophy and science.
  • Others question the validity of this claim, suggesting that the alleged conspiracy is not supported by historical evidence and pointing to earlier intellectuals who valued emotion.
  • One participant argues that advancements in society may have made emotions and instincts less necessary for survival, proposing that this leads to a misunderstanding of their utility.
  • Another participant suggests that the dismissal of emotion has resulted in a failure to develop a moral framework that matches the sophistication of technological advancements, leading to societal issues.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the idea that intellectuals should set moral standards, noting that many intellectuals live peacefully and contribute positively to society.
  • One participant finds it bizarre to claim that emotion is undermined, arguing that Western culture is heavily influenced by emotional reactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the role of emotion and the influence of intellectuals on societal values.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of historical perspectives and interpretations of emotion's role in human life, with participants expressing differing views on the implications of intellectual thought on emotional understanding.

  • #31


Lets think of what are Emotions. We have anger, we have sorrow, we have infatuation, and desire. These emotions are a major part of humanity, and are the driving force behind pretty much everything we do as individuals and as groups. I do not recognize how emotions can be dismissed by rationality because they are two different worlds. Rationality is a tool used for reasoning. If we are to leave emotion out of rationality so be it, but without emotion there is no reason for rationality. Without emotion there is nothing important and there is no point to anything.

How is it possible for a value system to be void of emotion? In a world without emotion there is no such thing as right or wrong, or good or bad.

Maybe I can see compassion being thrown out the door, but that still leaves desire and greed which are branches of emotion, even in a self serving satanic like philosophical system, emotions still run the show the only difference is that the emotions that are running things are negative and destructive to humanity as a whole and to the greater well being of the individual as well. How dumb do you have to be to think that we would be better off backstabbing each other and being only out for ourselves than helping and loving one another. Is not happiness the desirable emotion?

Survival is key. but rationally how is ones survival worth anything more than time to experience emotion. Ultimately we all die, and our children inherit the future. So if you are wise, you will promote the good emotions and not the bad, and you will have children and teach them to do the same. If you don't wish to have children, maybe because the world is overpopulated, then you should just try to experience positive emotions while you are here. If you are up to it maybe do something you can be proud of while your here and maybe a part of you will live on as the change for the better you created that may change the coarse of history.
 
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robertm said:
Yes indeed. The "Selfish Gene" as professor Dawkin's puts it. A propensity for altruism follows directly and predictably from the nature of our genetic evolution. It is inherent.

Let me link this thread with some of the research I came up with for my thread on Altruism

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=174792&highlight=altruism
 

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