Did Moses Predict the Big Bang Theory?

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The discussion explores the connection between biblical texts, particularly Genesis, and modern scientific theories like the Big Bang. It argues that ancient Jewish scholars, such as Maimonides and Namanides, anticipated concepts of time and space that align with contemporary physics, suggesting that time and space were created with the universe. The conversation critiques physicist Stephen Hawking's interpretations and highlights the improbability of random events leading to complex structures, using Shakespeare's sonnets as an analogy. Additionally, it questions why Kabbalistic insights were not more widely recognized or proclaimed earlier in history. Ultimately, the thread emphasizes the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern scientific understanding.
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The Sun itself has increased its magnetic field 230 degrees since 1901. Sunspots are more often and bigger ust like magnetic storms,glowing plasma increased 1000%. I think you can have more information in Rutherford Appleton National Labs in California. On Earth it's forming H0 gas that was not like before in the same amount and it's not related to greenhouse effect or fluocarbon emisors. Venus is getting brighter; Jupiter has energetic charge visible like a tube of ionizing radiation. Magnetic fields in Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune are stronger and the planets are getting brighter. Uranus and Neptune had recent pole shifts, 40, 50 % offset original rotational pole. Volcanic activity increased 500% since 1875 on Earth and earthquakes 400% since 1973 (if I mention the Bible prophecies regarding all this increasing in the world at the same time, Mr. Moderator will be upset with me, so why teasing him? I'll better not!). Natural disasters increased 410% between 1963 and 1993 (hurricanes, typhoons, mudslides, tidal waves) like THE DAY AFTER film about to come. We got to check natrium in selenic surface and if atmosphere on Mars is getting thicker. The Earth itself is getting flatter on the poles and increasing the belly Equator and it seems the whole galaxy is moving towards a magnetic zone transforming all planets like spinning the milkshake of SPACE AND TIME with the straw. Hence, the sensation of everything moving so fast (even in the county) perhaps it's not psycological as Nobel Prize winner, Alexis Carrel thought...with all do respect. Of course, if you send a telescope in the outskirts of our own Earthy neighborhood which ain't reaching the "center" of the universe neither the Milky Way even, we wouldn't know, we're too close like watching a baseball game from the corner of the stadium with a single tiny micro-camera compared with the size of the field! Absurd! Something is about to come in the following years and that's not a prediction of the end of the world. Not even in the Bible with people who don't even know the difference between the Greek world "kosmos" (world) with the word "aion" meaning "system of things" or "era" so it always meant a change of order and circumstances, even in the Bible.
 
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  • #62
Nereid: I have to confess Chinese civilization achieved a lot of things and now it seems by the time of Christopher Columbus and even prior their ships went far away but they kept many things inside their border and now we're only beginning to understand all what they achieved. I'm not familiar with many things regarding to China though I wanted to study Chinese but as I said before their 50.000 ideograms are related -as well as Sumerian scripture- to a knowledge coming from the gods and directly to the brain, as a program. Their scripture in fact has to be written from the top to the bottom and the scientists know the use of Mandarine language allows the use of the other brain hemisphere better than other languages. The scripture has been compared to Frank Rampsey's math glyphs.
 
  • #63
I ask you to re-read the sites I quoted in page 3 before I procede.
 
  • #64
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  • #65
When I say "formulas", you don't have to imagine math symbols, that's why you need to understand their symbols, not Pitagorian or Euclidian.
 
  • #66
I know, I know, I know you're asking yourselves "what the heck of information about the Sun", "can we trust Oscar's delusions?" Don't trust me, do your homework! Shall I help thee, my dearrr frrriends?
www.ras.org.uk/html/meetings/2001/010309.html[/URL]
Even the experts are puzzled and worried.
 
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  • #67
Somebody said Venus, here, that's my cue.

The Russian Velikovsky -though attacked by Carl Sagan- was not completely wrong in his ideas and in fact one of the confusions was mistaken Venus with Mercury

Would that mean that it was Mercury, "starring" in Worlds in Collision?

I take it that Velikovski was right about a possible relationship between unfossilised hippo remains in the Thames UK and Venus. He may have been, but in a way that nobody could have foreseen, except of course the Kabbalists
 
  • #68
Yap, your assumption is correct.
 
  • #69
Well, if Mercury was ejected from Jupiter, it's kindda hard to visualize where all it's dynamic energy went. You would expect the orbit of Mercury being highly eliptical with its apogee close to the orbit of Jupiter.
 
  • #70
I haven't investigated the issue with detail cos everything is so relative. The scientists do follow a premise which is uniformitarianism idea, that the events or circumstances now are the keys to understand what happened in the past. The fact is even our own planet Earth is issue of discussion, if it's expanding, if did it have the shape of an egg in the past, if it's getting flatter on the poles and wider in Equator's belly, if it spinned faster in ancient times altering the ticking in a shorter day and in fact altering the very year, we discuss about the origin of the very planet and the Moon, so the Mercury you see now in it's position and the current circumstances we see in space has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in the past, so there will follow an hypothetical measurement of the dynamic energy in the past? Even the measures we have about light-years is because of the use of paralax trigonometry. That math shouldn't be applied to far away stars but onlu to closer stars! Put a finger in front of your nose and watch it with the left eye and then with the right eye, the position of the angle of variation of the finger will change related to the objects which are at the back of your visual field. If you do the same thing with stretched arm,the finger will look like moving a bit less related to the objects at the back. A celestial body will move more related to fixed constelations NEAR TO US when observed by 2 distant points upon the surface of the Earth. The less angle we could check naked eye is just a minute of an arc or 1/60 of 1 degree. Applying those math formulas to distant stars as if they were near is an illusion. And even if that was accurate (and I'm skeptical), that's all! You can't rewind Mercury or Venus history (even our Earth) like Superman spinning around the Earth in order to witness what was going on. We can only speculate and that is not science realms, that's just speculation disguised with the mask of science.
www.newphys.se/elektromagnum/physics/Jonsson
 
  • #71
must not be a smoker...he's got a lot of wind...i am breathing heavy just reading

Pan
 
  • #72
Relax, take a deep breath and then go on... I don't want you to have a heart attack!
 
  • #73
I hope Mr. Moderator won't say Goddard Space Flight Center is talking "science fiction":
www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020801gravityfield.html[/URL]
 
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  • #74
http://ascension2000.com/DivineCosmos/08.htm
 
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  • #75
What happened with Nereid, Peter Pan and the rest?
 
  • #76
http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/gl...tophysical.html

Of course, if Mr. Moderator wants to have a personal chat with the respected SCIENTIST to take him out of misery, I can provide adress...HE-HE-HE!
 
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  • #77
Don't worry. They are around, I'm sure. It's not a chatbox of course. Don't despair when an answer takes a day.

Moreover is quite heavy stuff though and requires some philosofising. Why don't you glance casually at this thread. There may be some useful hints about how a theory works.
 
  • #79
Interesting! Yet that thread didn't explain why Moderator hid the # of posts, replies and views. What do you think is happening in his scientific mind? Do you think he maybe affected cos his beliefs are put in jeopardy?
 
  • #80
oscar said:
Don't trust me, do your homework!
As we've explained before, it isn't our homework: its your homework. We won't do it for you. If you've done it, you should be able to present us something (anything) clearly and concisely. For example, what is the bible verse which contains the precise value of Pi?
 
  • #81
oscar said:
I hope Mr. Moderator won't say Goddard Space Flight Center is talking "science fiction":
www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020801gravityfield.html[/URL][/QUOTE] What do you mean? Interesting link, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with what we're talking about here. There isn't any science fiction there.
 
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  • #82
Well, I guess that there is a very physical explanation for a pulsating equatorial bulge. I can think of one.

However this link is attraction attention. The baloney detector is getting rather nervous. However, there seems to be a Prof. Alexey Dmitriev indeed. So chances are that these new age hypotheses have some trusthworthiness in certain circles.

Our Planet Earth is now in the process of a dramatic transformation;by altering the electromagnetic skeleton through a shift of the geomagnetic field poles, and through compositional changes in the ozone, and hydrogen, saturation levels of its gas-plasma envelopes. These changes in the Earth's physical state are being accompanied by resultant climatic/atmospheric, and biospheric, adaptation processes. These processes are becoming more and more intense, and frequent, as evidenced by the real time increase in "non-periodic transient events"; ie., catastrophes.

What to do with it. Looking at the late quartenary geology, say the last million years there are most certainly many remarkable phenonema. But if "altering the electromagnetic skeleton through a shift of the geomagnetic field poles" is bothering him, rest assured, it happened many times and there is no trace of Earth going through difficult times. For the moment there is no clear relationship between Earth magnetic field (changes) and climate (changes).

but we can explain the majority of them with the "clathrate gun" together with the same design flaw of planet Earth that killed https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=2974.

Just plain physics, no unknown cosmic phenomena.
 
  • #83
Russ: you can insist forever what it's my duty or not. The theme here was Big Bang and I have already explained that knowledge was known 1800 years ago by Maimonides who knew Hebrew better than Christians. Then the issue has been changing. Now, if you want me to demonstrate every single aspect teaching you history that's other topic. What we know about modern physics and theories is available all over the places yet history is something not too many people want to search regarding this subject. That's why I say I do my homework, yo do yours. In fact I have giving extra details for quite a while. Now you ask me ANOTHER question? Well, first I would like to know what do you know about Hebrew language? The so called "sacred" cubit measured 25 inches and not 18 while the royal cubit n Egypt was 20 inches. Perhaps your interesting question needs to be examine in Isaiah 19:18, 19. Do you know something about it? Of course not!
Lemme instruct you:
http://greatpyramid.org/aip/gr-pyr1.htm
You will see a reference to Enoch and "inch" in that site. Yet, I tell something more, the name of Aztecs' city was "T-Enoch-Titlan in Nahuatl language and means the same thing mentioned in the Bible about people who knew astronomy, meaning the "city of Enoch" which in Egyptian calendar was related to the constelation of the Dof and Phoenix cicle called Pe-Hanok meaning "house of Enoc". The Maya pyramid in Teotihuacan has the exact number given in the Bible linked to the Enoch who was "taken" (in space-time?)by "God", Genesis 5:23; Genesis 4:17.
 
  • #84
Most of modern knowledge about Earth, gravity, etc, comes from the same Freemason scientist Newton who not only wrote more about religion than science but in fact sent a friend to measure Great Pyramid. So, he was the first "pyramidiotic". Now that you know in Hebrew math-alphabet code in Isaiah mentions the altar Great Pyramid both in the center and border of the country, now that you know the hidden inscription tells us about 5449 sacred Hebrew inches and the chamber in the pyramid measuring 365.25 inches , you can see the same number appears linked to Enoch in Genesis and you can remember what I already said about the numbers 666 and 144.000 related to speed of light measured paying attention the circle of the Earth and not a straight line.
www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm
Of course, Mr. Moderator don't believe references cos he thinks he knows more than scientists in Goddard Space Flight or the Russian Alexei Dmitirv, perhaps he wants me to give Mike Lockwood's e-mail or adress in Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories in California, but who cares what Mr. Moderator could argue with them? Only him, of course.
I say again in case the stupid question comes again about formulas, THE BIBLE NEVER PRETENDED TO BE A SCIENTIFIC BOOK though some scientific accurate information is implicit. How many times do I have to post the same thing to stop making idiotic questions in that sense? For example, the instructions in order to make the ark were already explicit. God or the angel didn't explain to Moses circumsition exactly at the 8th day increased protrombine and vitamine K which is the better day to coagulate blood (while Western civilization took thousands of years to teach doctors to wash their hands!), Gods didn't explain to Jews, Incas, Egyptians if they practice circumsition they wouldn't get penis cancer. Hence the question RussRogerWaters asks belongs to Pink Floyd's stone trip, unless of course he can't add something more and has to repeat the same old "argument" to disregard what he considers useless.
 
  • #86
The Old and the New Testaments of the Bible seem to be full of miraculous events. Without using modern days scientific explanations, these events will continue to remain as miracles. But recently, I saw a program in the history channel that some of these events can be explained as extraterrestial interventions of superintelligence of lesser gods.
 
  • #87
Antonio Lao: I really didn't pretend to talk about all possible theme about the Bible because that would really lead us off the topic.I stated the issue Big Bang and eventually transformed into this. If we understand the original Hebrew language we could know more than the superficial layers known by 99.9% of Christians.In Hebrew, for example, there's a significant difference between "create" (barah) and "form", "make" or "modelate". In Genesis 1:26; 2:7, 18, 21, 22 in the context of Adan & Eve it doesn't say "create" but form from something already existing. In fact in 1:26; 3:22 and 11:6,7 we clearly see the use of PLURAL regarding "gods" (without being important what modern clasification we give to civilizations type I, II, III). It's not majestic plural of Trinity (as adapted from paganism centuries after Christ) but verb in plural of the "elohim". The Bibles don't translate "in the beginning the gods created heaven & earth" cos of the singular verb. But in the verses I mention it's specific use of plural as anybody can understand. The "god" as witnessed by Moses was a sort of angel as Acts 7:30, 35, 36, 38 describes very well. But it's not the unique book saying scientific facts in hidden way. Michio Kaku perhaps should ask his parents about the own writing of the first 5 numbers in Japanese since thousands of katakanas (2000) were imported from Chinese ideograms and then study Frank Rampsey's math gliphs. But, he's too busy and that's understandable yet regretable.
 
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http://fusionanomaly.net/greatpyramidsofgizah.html
 
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  • #89
Sorry, it's not that but this:
http:fusionanomaly.net/greatpyramidsofgiza.html
 

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