Did You Ever Meet Someone Who Claimed to Have an Extraordinary Past?

[zoobyshoe]

Being young still I wanted to hang out with friends instead of hunched over a go board all the time so we wound up not playing much later on and I think that sadden him. He really enjoyed our games and I felt really bad about it afterwards. One day he left.

This is a big problem at this sort of Cafe. Some of the broken, misfit people are actually pretty interesting if you're in the right frame of mind, but usually there are far less emotionally draining people to hang with. One of the problems I had with the guy I described in the opening post was his long winded side excursion into the dog story. He lost me there, and I couldn't wait to get rid of him.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

When I was a senior in high school, our psychology class visited Napa State Mental Hospital. We visited four wards, with each being appropriate for people with increasingly serious disorders, as compared to the previous ward. I don't remember much about the rest of the wards, but talking with people in the last ward was a very strange experience. One guy tried to convince me that he was a chicken. There was another that strutted around while claiming to be a long-distance runner. There was a catatonic schizophrenic sitting in a semi-fetal position and rocking in the corner. The most memorable of all was this really nice guy that sat down next to me. I asked him why he was here. He talked a bit and finally arrived at the sentence: I took about twenty hits of acid [it might have been more...], and I woke up here.

It definitely ranks as one of the most memorable experiences that I have had. It was absolutely surreal to sit and talk with people who were so completely detached from reality. The other things that stick in my mind are that almost everyone smoked; they had electric cigarette lighters built into the walls; the doctors in the last ward seemed strikingly similar to the patients in the first ward.

Regarding the alien bit, in spite of my twenty-year+ interest in the UFO phenomenon, I have never met anyone who actually claimed to be abducted by aliens. I have always been tempted to track down Travis Walton [famous case] and have a one-on-one, but I guess I don't really want to badly enough to pay for the airfare.

 

[zoobyshoe]

It definitely ranks as one of the most memorable experiences that I have had. It was absolutely surreal to sit and talk with people who were so completely detached from reality.

I'm sure it was memorable for them, too. Those places are bleak and the chance to sit and chat with 'normal' people who weren't staff probably made them feel better.

Regarding the alien bit, in spite of my twenty-year+ interest in the UFO phenomenon, I have never met anyone who actually claimed to be abducted by aliens. I have always been tempted to track down Travis Walton [famous case] and have a one-on-one, but I guess I don't really want to badly enough to pay for the airfare.

This woman across the street here who claims to have been abducted and impregnated is obviously "off" when you talk to her for a bit. She also claims to be a licensed private detective and to work in film production. She and her brother are both in their 40's, single, and still living at home with their parents, which says something. She is actually quite attractive, but ruins it by dressing a bit desperately too flashy, short skirts, too much makeup, overdone hairdos, glitter on the face. (At first I figured her for a hooker or stripper past her prime.) There's a kind of posed artificiality to her manner; like a beauty pageant contestant. At the same time all her stories are underdeveloped, cryptic; she drops a few remarks then gets evasive and changes the subject if you ask for details.

One guy who used to hang out at the cafe wasn't exactly "abducted" but, years back, he used to be terrorized by aliens appearing out of nowhere in his apartment. He also constantly heard voices and pretty much lived with an ipod and earphones to drown them out. He was on some medication that made him restless and this made him look sketchy: always standing, shuffling from one foot to the other. The odd thing about him is that, if you got him off the subject of aliens and the Philadelphia Experiment, he was incredibly relaxed and funny and very bright. He had a great sense of humor and everyone liked him. He must have been a very warm and charismatic person before he started hallucinating all the time. But, like your pal in the State Hospital, he did a few too many hits of acid and woke up far from Kansas.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I had a friend who said she knew a family that had been chronically abducted. Apparently even the children made comments about the "tin foil people". I am unsure if maybe it was just the mother who was influencing the children to believe this or not since I never met any of the family myself.
My friend, her name was Storme, also believed herself to be psychic and read tarot cards. Not in the crazy sort of way but more like those people who practice "wicca" or similar. She saw lights in the sky one night not long before I met her and believed they were from a UFO. A mutual friend of ours was there with her and she always pointed to her for confirmation but I got the impression that our friend was not nearly as convinced as Storme. Storme also often related how she used to work as a dancer in a club owned by a mobster back in Florida a long time ago. She had other interesting stories. I was never sure just how much she was exaggerating though I knew that she often exaggerated stories about times we were hanging out together at least just a tad.
Storme is gone now too. She died just a couple years ago.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

We knew one woman who claimed to have had a out-of-body death experience. Apparently, at least according to her husband, she did code during childbirth. She also claimed to have gone on a vision quest. She claimed that while on this quest, a black panther appeared during the night and slept by her side. I got to know her well enough to guess that she was probably expecting to see a black panther. She awoke and found something that vaguely resembled a paw print near her sleeping bag, and concluded that a panther had been there.

Almost had forgotten this one: Some years ago, after we had just moved, I went to a new dentist. While the hygenist was cleaning my teeth, she began to tell me how she and others were in psychic communication with some alien race on a distant planet. They were all working hard to solve some big alien problem. I was essentially held captive with sharp utensils in my mouth while she described the details of their work, so I decided not to go back there.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I have not met anyone who has had an extraordinary past.

Maybe I'm an alien?

Heh, I just noticed your username. Fire in the Sky was the name of the movie about Travis Walton; alleged alien abductee.

 

[Ghost803]

I have an uncle who claims that he is the Son of a South Indian god named Ayyapan. Ayyapan is supposed to be a celibate god... and the uncle went off his rocker when his business failed.. Oh and he claims he saw the re-incarnated soul of our grandfather in a cow.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I have an uncle who claims that he is the Son of a South Indian god named Ayyapan. Ayyapan is supposed to be a celibate god... and the uncle went off his rocker when his business failed.. Oh and he claims he saw the re-incarnated soul of our grandfather in a cow.

Did he ever explain the mechanism whereby he was a-sexually produced, or did he mean the celibate god had made at least one exception?

 

[Ms Music]

Regarding the alien bit, in spite of my twenty-year+ interest in the UFO phenomenon, I have never met anyone who actually claimed to be abducted by aliens.

My ex husband used to be convinced he was regularly visited by aliens that did stuff to him. (not abducted though) After him saying "it happened again," I started to recognize his sleep behavior in those dreams. I finally woke him up during the dreams and was able to get him to see that it was ONLY A DREAM. From what I understand, he never had "visitation" dreams again. However, I DO find it interesting that he had these dreams since age 3, and his explanation of "blue monkeys" and "tall greys" are the same as what many people describe.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

My ex husband used to be convinced he was regularly visited by aliens that did stuff to him. (not abducted though) After him saying "it happened again," I started to recognize his sleep behavior in those dreams. I finally woke him up during the dreams and was able to get him to see that it was ONLY A DREAM. From what I understand, he never had "visitation" dreams again. However, I DO find it interesting that he had these dreams since age 3, and his explanation of "blue monkeys" and "tall greys" are the same as what many people describe.

I dated a woman who claimed to have multiple personality disorder. The last guy she had dated played it up and made a big deal of it because he thought it was interesting. When I started dating her and she made comments to the effect that she had "left" for a moment I ignored them and the comments ceased. To this day I don't think she ever claimed to have a "moment" again after that.

 

[Ms Music]

Oh, another flash back. One time I found something just under the skin on his spine. It was a hard object that you could feel, sortof bluish-black. It was about a centimeter long, and about 1/3 of a centimeter wide, rectangular. I used to call it his alien implant.

 

[zoobyshoe]

My ex husband used to be convinced he was regularly visited by aliens that did stuff to him. (not abducted though) After him saying "it happened again," I started to recognize his sleep behavior in those dreams. I finally woke him up during the dreams and was able to get him to see that it was ONLY A DREAM. From what I understand, he never had "visitation" dreams again. However, I DO find it interesting that he had these dreams since age 3, and his explanation of "blue monkeys" and "tall greys" are the same as what many people describe.

What was his behavior during these dreams?

Also, what are "blue monkeys"? I've never heard this one.

Oh, another flash back. One time I found something just under the skin on his spine. It was a hard object that you could feel, sortof bluish-black. It was about a centimeter long, and about 1/3 of a centimeter wide, rectangular. I used to call it his alien implant.

What was his explanation of this thing? Was there a scar?

 

[zoobyshoe]

I had a friend who said she knew a family that had been chronically abducted. Apparently even the children made comments about the "tin foil people". I am unsure if maybe it was just the mother who was influencing the children to believe this or not since I never met any of the family myself.

Did your friend believe it? Was she offering the story as some kind of evidence?

Almost had forgotten this one: Some years ago, after we had just moved, I went to a new dentist. While the hygenist was cleaning my teeth, she began to tell me how she and others were in psychic communication with some alien race on a distant planet. They were all working hard to solve some big alien problem. I was essentially held captive with sharp utensils in my mouth while she described the details of their work, so I decided not to go back there.

Makes you wonder to what extent all these stories can be traced back to repressed memories of encounters with lunatic dental hygenists.

 

[Ms Music]

What was his behavior during these dreams?

You could just tell he was having a nightmare, I knew he was "distressed"... Make sense?

Also, what are "blue monkeys"? I've never heard this one.

I don't know anything about UFOs or aliens, so I can't answer well... I just remember watching a tv "documentary" about alien abductions with him, and he said "those were what had visited him, the blue monkeys and the tall greys." The "normal" tall grey's, and these short, squat ones that were maybe 3 feet tall, apparently they "work" together.

What was his explanation of this thing? Was there a scar?

He had no knowledge of it until I noticed it, so he had no explanation. There was no scar that I could see, so the only thing I can guess at, is maybe a bone spur encased in blood? I am not aware of him ever having a doctor look at it.

 

[zoobyshoe]

You could just tell he was having a nightmare, I knew he was "distressed"... Make sense?

I see what you mean.

I don't know anything about UFOs or aliens, so I can't answer well... I just remember watching a tv "documentary" about alien abductions with him, and he said "those were what had visited him, the blue monkeys and the tall greys." The "normal" tall grey's, and these short, squat ones that were maybe 3 feet tall, apparently they "work" together.

I've never heard of "tall" greys. I thought greys were supposed to be about 3 - 4 feet tall. Also never heard of the "blue monkeys". Back when I was a kid all aliens visiting Earth were from Venus, and they were described as looking just like white (caucasian) humans except they were tall, healthy, and attractive, also usually blonde. Over the years alien stories evolved to include an increasing variety of alien species.

He had no knowledge of it until I noticed it, so he had no explanation. There was no scar that I could see, so the only thing I can guess at, is maybe a bone spur encased in blood? I am not aware of him ever having a doctor look at it.

Was it loose or attached to a vertebrae?

 

[Ms Music]

Was it loose or attached to a vertebrae?

I don't remember... But I think it was loose.

Also, When he called them "tall greys and blue monkeys" he was referring to what he called them as a 3 year old. I have no idea how tall the "tall" ones were, but the shorter ones were apparently not much taller than he was at 3. I just have vague memories of what he described, and the tv show that we watched that showed the same aliens. If I remember right, the tv show was about 20 years ago, and hyped by the media. Maybe someone else remembers it?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Did your friend believe it? Was she offering the story as some kind of evidence?

Yes she believed in alien visitors and abductions. She would tell the story of her friend as support for her belief along with her story of seeing lights in the sky. I'm sure the friend actually existed too since some of Storme's older friends were also acqauinted with the woman.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I've never heard of "tall" greys. I thought greys were supposed to be about 3 - 4 feet tall.

The tall ones have been reported for a long time now, but I don't know when it started; maybe with Strieber. IIRC, Betty and Barney Hill first reported the tall insect-like alien that was in charge, but the so-called tall greys are a different claim.

Also never heard of the "blue monkeys". Back when I was a kid all aliens visiting Earth were from Venus, and they were described as looking just like white (caucasian) humans except they were tall, healthy, and attractive, also usually blonde. Over the years alien stories evolved to include an increasing variety of alien species.

Obviously, back when you were a kid, the other aliens hadn't evolved yet and Venus was habitable.

"The Nordics" are still a popular reference.

It gets crazy in a hurry if you look at some of the websites that talk about this stuff. I saw one that listed something like 23 different aliens with an entire story to go with each.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I remember seeing a documentary a while back about aliens and they had a rather suprising managerie of alien types that are all supposedly descriptions from abductees that were "common" to one degree or another.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

they were described as looking just like white (caucasian) humans except they were tall, healthy, and attractive, also usually blonde.

Here you go, Zooby. The Nordics are also known as the Metrons.

The Metrons were first encountered by United Federation of Planets representatives in 2267. In that year, Captain James T. Kirk had ordered the USS Enterprise to pursue a Gorn vessel that had destroyed the observation outpost located on Cestus III.

As the pursuit passed the uncharted solar system at 2466 PM, the Enterprise was scanned from that system. Then the Gorn vessel inexplicably slowed and stopped...

http://www.startrek.com
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Metron

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Here you go, Zooby. The Nordics are also known as the Metrons.

Made me think of the Eloi but I guess they aren't aliens. ;-)

 

[zoobyshoe]

Obviously, back when you were a kid, the other aliens hadn't evolved yet and Venus was habitable.

"The Nordics" are still a popular reference.

They all came from this guy:

Venus was their home planet, I'm fairly sure, since they were good and wanted to help mankind, and it was already known Martians were evil and just wanted to conquer.