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The discussion revolves around two questions related to probability and statistics involving a die and random variables. The first question concerns the variance of the sum of three dice rolls, while the second question involves calculating the probability of a specific outcome when randomly distributing balls into chains.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the variance of the sum of three dice rolls and seeks clarification on the correct approach to find it. They also express uncertainty about their solution to the second question regarding the probability of a chain containing exactly three balls.
  • Participants discuss the variance of independent random variables and question the application of formulas related to variance and covariance.
  • Some participants question the original poster's understanding of variance in the context of the central limit theorem and the independence of random variables.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of variance and probability calculations, with some expressing confusion about the application of statistical concepts. The original poster's questions indicate a need for further exploration of the underlying assumptions in their problems.

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I have these two question I hope someone could check them out for me :

1) A die is rolled 3 times, let x be the sum of the 3 results .

what is var(x) ?

I started by calculating E(x)= Segma(1 to 3 (E(Xi)) when Xi is the number we got in every throw .
E(Xi)=3.5
then E(x) = 10.5 (Expected of the sum)

now what should I do to find the var of x ?

2) we have n balls and n^2 chains , we throw the balls randomly into the chains.
we pick y randomly - a chain , what's the probability that it has exactly 3 balls in it .

ok, I've kinda solve this question but I'm not sure if the answer is correct .. we choose 3 balls from the n balls , and we do it in n!/((n-3)!*3!) and we calculate every ball by the probability that it goes into y , 1/n^2 .. thus final answer is :

n!
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(n-3)!*3!*n^6

can you help me complete the first Q and check the second one for me.

thanks.
 
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Let x be a random variable that stands for a single toss of the die.

x p[x]
1 1/6
2 1/6
...
6 1/6

Then E[x] = 3.5 and E[x^2] = 15.1667 and var(x) = 2.9167

We then have Y = X + X + X. Thus,

[tex]\rho^2_Y = \frac{\rho^2_X}{N}= \frac{2.9167}{3}[/tex]
 
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thanks tedbradly.
you have found the variance of the mean by dividing by 3 .
shouldn't it be :
var(x+x+x) = var(x)+var(x+x)+2*cov(x,x+x) =
var(x)+4*var(x)+2*(E(x(x+1))-E(x)*E(x+x) = 9*var(x) ?? and not var(x)/3 ?
I just need to make sure .
 
RsMath said:
thanks tedbradly.
you have found the variance of the mean by dividing by 3 .
shouldn't it be :
var(x+x+x) = var(x)+var(x+x)+2*cov(x,x+x) =
var(x)+4*var(x)+2*(E(x(x+1))-E(x)*E(x+x) = 9*var(x) ?? and not var(x)/3 ?
I just need to make sure .

I have no idea what all that is that you typed, but I just used the central limit theorem.
 
tedbradly said:
I have no idea what all that is that you typed, but I just used the central limit theorem.

he's using var(X+Y) = var(X) + var(Y) + 2cov(X,Y).

since X and Y are independent the covariance is 0, so you get var(X+Y) = var(X) + var(Y) .

likewise var(X+Y+Z) = var(X)+var(Y+Z) = var(X)+var(Y)+var(Z) (if X, Y and Z are independent.)

If X,Y and Z have an identical distribution then: var(X+Y+Z) = 3var(X)
 
willem2 said:
he's using var(X+Y) = var(X) + var(Y) + 2cov(X,Y).

since X and Y are independent the covariance is 0, so you get var(X+Y) = var(X) + var(Y) .

likewise var(X+Y+Z) = var(X)+var(Y+Z) = var(X)+var(Y)+var(Z) (if X, Y and Z are independent.)

If X,Y and Z have an identical distribution then: var(X+Y+Z) = 3var(X)
Oh. I was doing variance of the mean, which is wrong.
 

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