Dienophile and diene help? organic chemistry

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The discussion revolves around the Diels-Alder reaction in organic chemistry, specifically focusing on identifying dienes and dienophiles in various compounds. Participants seek clarification on specific questions related to a lab assignment.

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  • Conceptual clarification

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding Diels-Alder reactions and requests help with specific questions from a lab assignment.
  • Another participant suggests referring to Wikipedia for information on the Diels-Alder reaction.
  • A participant points out the need to identify specific structural elements involved in the Diels-Alder reaction.
  • Several participants identify the diene and dienophile for various questions, with some providing detailed descriptions of the compounds.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of considering stereochemistry in the context of the reaction.
  • One participant acknowledges the need to refine their answers based on feedback regarding stereochemistry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the identification of some dienes and dienophiles, but there is uncertainty regarding the correctness of some answers, particularly concerning stereochemistry and the overall accuracy of the proposed structures.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about naming conventions and the stereochemical implications of their answers. There are unresolved aspects regarding the correctness of the proposed structures and the interpretation of stereochemistry.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying organic chemistry, particularly those learning about Diels-Alder reactions and related concepts.

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dienophile and diene help?? organic chemistry

We never really covered how to do diels alder reactions and I am having trouble how
to do these. Here is a photo of the lab page with the questions. I just need help
with 2a-e and 3b-3d. Thanks.

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Wikipedia doesn't help tried that already.
 


Diels-Alder reaction is between two specific structural elements, can you name them? Can you locate them in the compounds listed in the book? It is pretty straightforward.
 


Start with 2a, can you identify the diene?
 


yeah the diene and dienophile.

2a the diene is the double bonded hexyl groups. The dienophile is the two bonded COOCH3 groups.

2b. the diene is the cyclehexen-1,3-diene. the dienophile is the 1,2-chlorohexene

2c. the diene is cyclopenten-1,3-diene. the dienophile is the second one. barely learning to naming those. I know its an ester group.

2d. the diene is the cyclopenten-1,3-diene. the dienophile is the prop-1-en-2-ol

2e. the diene is the alkene(2nd compound) and the dienophile is the cyclopentene with the chlorides surrounding it.
 


here are my answers

2a.
 

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Close to correct, but you need to think about stereochemistry. Are -COOCH3 on the same side of the ring (they don't lie on the paper surface)?
 


oh its both stereocenters so one will have a wedge while the other will have dashed lines
 
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so something like this?
 

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here is my answer for 2b,2c,2d
 

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and 2e.
 

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2a looks OK to me. Other products will be polycyclic. Dienophile and diene create a new ring (dienophile "closes" the diene).
 
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so the rest are wrong then? ok ill try to figure them out then
 

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