Diff Eq: Equilibrium Solution sketching?

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The discussion revolves around equilibrium solutions in differential equations, specifically focusing on the equation dy/dt = r(1 - y/K)y. Participants are exploring the characteristics of the graph of this equation, including intercepts and the vertex of the corresponding parabola.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss plotting the equation and identifying intercepts, with one questioning the origin of the vertex coordinates provided in the textbook. Another participant brings up a different equation and seeks methods for finding vertices, considering both algebraic and calculus approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights about the graphing of parabolas and the relationship between intercepts and vertices. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of calculus for finding local maxima and minima, but there is no explicit consensus on the methods to be used.

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Participants are navigating the concepts of equilibrium solutions and graphing techniques, with some expressing uncertainty about algebraic methods versus calculus for finding critical points. There is an acknowledgment of prior knowledge related to parabolas that may influence their understanding.

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Homework Statement


[itex]\frac{dy}{dt}=r(1-\frac{y}{K})y[/itex]


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[itex]0=r(1-\frac{y}{K})y[/itex]
y=0 and K.

Plotting dy/dt vs y, the intercepts would then be (0,0) and (0,K).

The book says "the vertex of the parabola is (K/2, rK/4)." Is this something from algebra that I'm forgetting? How do I know/find this?
 
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If you plot the equation dy/dt = r(1 - y/K)y, with dy/dt considered to be a function of y, the graph is a parbola that opens downward. The vertex will be on a vertical line midway between the two y intercepts, namely at y = K/2.

This is the same stuff you learned a while back when you were studying the graphs of parabolas.
 
What about something like dy/dt = y(y-1)(y-2). I can easily find the points as y=0, 1, and 2. How do I find the vertices? Is there an easy way with algebra or do I just use maximum/minimum from calculus I?
 
I don't believe there are any algebraic techniques to find the local max or min - you'll need to use calculus.
 
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cdotter said:
Thank you Mark44. [PLAIN]http://smiliesftw.com/x/bowdown.gif[/QUOTE]
That's a really cool smily!
 
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