Difference Equation Bank Account Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a difference equation related to a bank account problem, specifically focusing on the balance calculation involving deposits, fees, and interest rates. The subject area includes financial mathematics and difference equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the correctness of the original equation and the interpretation of the annual interest rate. There are discussions about whether the interest should be applied monthly or annually and how to accurately represent the balance over time. Some suggest creating a table to visualize the balance over multiple months.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and raising questions about the assumptions in the problem. There is no clear consensus, but several participants have offered critiques of the original equation and highlighted potential misunderstandings regarding interest calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the ambiguity in the timing of deposits and fees in relation to the balance calculation, as well as the implications of using a nominal APR versus a compounded monthly rate. There is also mention of common practices in financial calculations that may influence the interpretation of the problem.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


The equation describing the balance will be f(n+1)=f(n)+R/12*Dm-Cf
with f(n)=initial deposit
R=Annual Rate
Dm=Each mouth Deposit 150
Cf= each month fee

The Attempt at a Solution



Can someone shed some lights on it?

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Your initial equation seems wrong to me. The interest comes over the whole amount of money, not just the new input. But maybe I'm wrong, pls double-check :)
 
Not only that, the exercise clearly states that the 6% is an annual rate. That means one of two things: either the 6% is applied in intervals of 12 months or it is converted to a monthly interest rate that is not equal to 0.5% (but less -- compound interest and all that). There is a third possibility: the exercise composer overlooked these two things altogether and wants you to use the 0.5% nevertheless. You decide.

In your formula you don't mean f(n) = initial deposit (I hope?), but balance after n months.
In your formula I don't understand why you do not add Dm itself every month.

Why not build up a little table, just to check the expression: f(0), f(1), f(2) etc.
 
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BvU said:
Not only that, the exercise clearly states that the 6% is an annual rate. That means one of two things: either the 6% is applied in intervals of 12 months or it is converted to a monthly interest rate that is not equal to 0.5% (but less -- compound interest and all that).
.

One definition of the "nominal APR" is : ( number of payment periods per year) ( interest rate per payment period), so the person who composed the problem may be knowledgeable about that terminology and expect students to use R/12.
 
BvU said:
Not only that, the exercise clearly states that the 6% is an annual rate. That means one of two things: either the 6% is applied in intervals of 12 months or it is converted to a monthly interest rate that is not equal to 0.5% (but less -- compound interest and all that). There is a third possibility: the exercise composer overlooked these two things altogether and wants you to use the 0.5% nevertheless. You decide.

In your formula you don't mean f(n) = initial deposit (I hope?), but balance after n months.
In your formula I don't understand why you do not add Dm itself every month.

Why not build up a little table, jusdt to check the expression: f(0), f(1), f(2) etc.

In financial calculations it is common to use a monthly interest equal to 1/12 the annual interest, even under monthly compounding. Of course, that is incorrect mathematically, but that is how it is done by financial institutions, for the most part. If the OP's problem occurred in a "finance" or engineering economic type course, it is likely the intended monthly interest rate be taken as 0.5% exactly, in accordance with common institutional standards.; if it is in a "math" course, the intention is less clear.

Another criticism of the OP's contribution is his/her failure to explain the "timing" aspects clearly. Is the balance at month ##n## the amount in the account at the start of a month, before any deposits or payments or after any deposits or payments? Is it the balance at the end of the month, before (or after) any payments and/or interest income? Different answers will lead to slightly different recurrence relations.
 
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Do bean counters work with z-transforms ?
 
BvU said:
Do bean counters work with z-transforms ?

No, but sometimes "advanced" courses in finance or economics may introduce z-transforms.

Anyway, even if this was in a "math" course, the issue is still valid: should the OP take the monthly interest rate as 0.5% (because the instructor may explain that in financial problems, that is a common standard), or should it be ##100 \times (1.06^{1/12}-1)##?

I hope the OP realizes there is an issue here, and if so, will likely know which way to proceed.
 
Houeto said:
The equation describing the balance will be f(n+1)=f(n)+R/12*Dm-Cf

It looks like the equation is wrong. Should it possibly be:
After thinking about it, maybe I'm not supposed to correct the equation. I almost did it anyway because I figure for someone doing Z transforms, coming up with the equation is the simple part of the problem. So I will just say that the equation is definitely incorrect. As far as Z-transforms, for me that was long ago and far away.
 

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