Difference in Potential Energy between two Reservoirs

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The problem involves calculating the increase in specific potential energy of water being pumped from one reservoir to another, with a vertical height difference of 20m and a horizontal distance of 100m. The context is within a renewable energy course, focusing on the concept of potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up the equation for potential energy change using the formula P = mgh, expressing uncertainty about how to incorporate mass and the specific height difference. Other participants confirm the approach and clarify that only the vertical height contributes to potential energy, while questioning the relevance of the horizontal distance.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between mass, height, and potential energy, with some guidance provided on focusing solely on the vertical height difference. There is an ongoing examination of how to properly apply the given information in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of recent experience with physics and mentions that the course materials do not adequately cover quantitative aspects of potential energy, which may impact their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



3. Water is pumped from one reservoir to another 100m away. The water level in the second reservoir is 20m above the water level of the first reservoir. What is the increase in specific potential energy of the water in J/kg?


Homework Equations



The relevant equation I've been given in my notes is

P = mgh

This problem is for a renewable energy course. In class I only received a definition of potential energy and the above equation, the teacher didn't do any problems with potential energy in class either. The given textbook doesn't touch on the quantitative side of renewable energies. I've been trying to look through old physics textbooks but can't find anything too helpful yet.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have been away from physics for almost 8 years, so physics problems aren't very intuitive for me anymore.

So far I've assumed I'm calculating the change in P. Setting up the equation as :
ΔP = (mgh)2nd reservoir - (mgh)1st reservoir

with
Δ (mass*g) = (20m* ? * density of water)*9.8m^2/sec
Δh = 100m

I can't figure out how to get the Δ in the volume of water, which I need to get the mass. Or since the teacher wants the answer in J/kg, should I be assuming that I should set up the equation as:
ΔP/m = Δ(g*h) ?

Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Alyssa
 
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Hello and welcome to PF!

catsandtrees said:
So far I've assumed I'm calculating the change in P. Setting up the equation as :
ΔP = (mgh)2nd reservoir - (mgh)1st reservoir

Yes. This is very good.

Note that you can write this as ΔP = mgh2 - mgh1 = mg(h2 - h1) = mgΔh.

You can imagine that you skim a mass of m = 1 kg of water off the surface of the first reservoir and move it to the surface of the second reservoir. You just need to calculate ΔP for this situation.
 
I attempted the question again keeping in mind I need the specific potential energy.
This would give me:

ΔP/Δm = gΔh = 9.80 * 100m = 980 m2/s2 = 980 J/kg.

However this doesn't use the 20m water level difference. At this point in the course I don't think the teacher would give us useless info. Does this mean I need to use a trig function to get actual difference in height? Or should I be incorporating the 20m into the Δm?
 
In the equation P = mgh, h is the vertical height. So, Δh is the change in vertical height, or the change in water level of the two reservoirs. There is no change in gravitational potential energy when a mass is moved horizontally. You can think of moving 1 kg of mass 100 m horizontally and then 20 m vertically. Only the 20 m vertical change contributes to the change in potential energy.
 

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