Differences Between Free Basis and Basis: A Comprehensive Guide

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The discussion revolves around the differences between "free basis" and "basis" in the context of linear algebra and modules. Participants are exploring definitions and interpretations of these terms.

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  • Participants are questioning the existence of a difference between free basis and basis, with some suggesting that they may be synonymous. Others are exploring the definitions found in literature, particularly in relation to modules and vector spaces.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights from their studies and referencing external sources. There is an ongoing exploration of definitions, and some participants are expressing uncertainty about the terminology used in different contexts.

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There is mention of differing contexts, such as linear algebra and module theory, which may influence the interpretation of the terms. Some participants note that the term "free basis" is not commonly encountered in standard linear algebra textbooks.

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What are the differences between the two?
 
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Do you mean ordered basis?
 
Don't think so.
 
Just surfing wiki, I get the impression that there is none. Do you have a reason to believe that there is a difference?
 
quasar987 said:
Just surfing wiki, I get the impression that there is none. Do you have a reason to believe that there is a difference?

Yeah, looks the same to me. This is what I studied in my linear algebra course: there's something called a basis and then something called an ordered basis. A basis with an ordering of elements (somewhat like an indexing set that has been fixed which maps to elements of your basis) is called an ordered basis.

I think when you say free basis, you probably mean a basis without ordering...but that's just a wild guess. I haven't come across this term (free basis) in my reading of any standard textbook on Linear Algebra (cf Hoffman/Kunze).
 
I am talking about it in the sense of modules.
 
If you look here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_module

they define a free module as a module having a free basis. But then they give the definition of a free basis and it is an exact analogy to what is simply called a 'basis' in linear algebra:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basis_(linear_algebra)#Definition

Another reason why I suspect that there is no difference btw the two is the following sentence in the article about modules:

"However, modules can be quite a bit more complicated than vector spaces; for instance, not all modules have a basis, and even those that do, free modules,[...] "
 
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Vector spaces are modules for fields. All modules for fields are free, so in this case the two notions agree.
 

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