Different subsidiary notes with varying amplitudes

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The discussion revolves around the quality of sound produced by identical guitars played at the same pitch. Participants explore why two instruments can produce notes of the same pitch and loudness yet differ in quality, focusing on concepts such as subsidiary notes, waveforms, and harmonics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to explain differences in sound quality through varying amplitudes of subsidiary notes and different waveforms. Questions are raised about the factors influencing sound quality, including the role of harmonics and the impact of plucking techniques on the frequencies excited in the string.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and seeking clarification on complex concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between plucking techniques and sound quality, but there is no explicit consensus on the explanations provided.

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Participants express uncertainty about the depth of their course material regarding sound quality and harmonics, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their understanding of the topic.

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Homework Statement



1. Two identical guitars are played by two persons to give notes of the same pitch. Will they differ in quality? Give a reason.

2. How do you account for the fact that 2 string instruments can be used to give notes of the same pitch and loudness but different quality?



The Attempt at a Solution



I thin the answer for both questions is that they have different subsidiary notes with varying amplitudes. They have different wave forms. Isnt it?
 
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ritwik06 said:

Homework Statement



1. Two identical guitars are played by two persons to give notes of the same pitch. Will they differ in quality? Give a reason.

2. How do you account for the fact that 2 string instruments can be used to give notes of the same pitch and loudness but different quality?



The Attempt at a Solution



I thin the answer for both questions is that they have different subsidiary notes with varying amplitudes. They have different wave forms. Isnt it?
What factor determines the quality of the sound produced by the vibrating string?

What is it about plucking a guitar string that determines which of these frequencies are exited and in what proportion? Think of the shape of the string just before it is released and think of Fourier analysis of that shape.

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
What factor determines the quality of the sound produced by the vibrating string?

I have already trold that in my answer.
Andrew Mason said:
What is it about plucking a guitar string that determines which of these frequencies are exited and in what proportion? Think of the shape of the string just before it is released and think of Fourier analysis of that shape.

AM

I don't think much detail is there in our course about it. Will youlease help me with a simpler answer?
 
ritwik06 said:
I have already trold that in my answer.
I am not sure what you mean by subsidiary tones. Quality is determined by harmonics (or overtones, or harmonic frequencies). The quality of the sound depends on the number and respective amplitudes of the higher harmonic frequencies.

I don't think much detail is there in our course about it. Will youlease help me with a simpler answer?
The difference in plucking of the string - the difference in the shape of the string just before letting it go - leads to different harmonics (quality). If the string is plucked near the middle of the string, it will excite different frequencies than if plucked nearer one end. Also, if it is plucked with a soft finger, it sounds different than if plucked with a pick - because the different plucking techniques create different shapes (hence different harmonics). This is easy to show using Fourier analysis.

AM
 

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