Different Temperatures of Ice versus the Refractive Index

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The discussion revolves around an experiment concerning the refractive index of ice at different temperatures, specifically comparing ice at -15°C and -1°C. The original poster seeks to understand how temperature affects the refractive index and is looking for relevant formulas or articles to support their inquiry.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to relate temperature changes to the refractive index of ice and questions whether the refractive index varies with temperature due to molecular changes. They also explore the use of the Lorenz-Lorenz equation and seek to determine the molecular polarizability of ice.

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Some participants have provided links to resources that may contain relevant information. The original poster is actively seeking clarification on the polarizability of ice and is open to alternative methods for calculating the refractive index.

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The original poster notes challenges in finding information due to language barriers and the specificity of their inquiry. They express uncertainty about the availability of data regarding the molecular polarizability of ice.

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I want to make an experiment about the refractive index of ice but this time I want to use different temperatures. (for example with -15 C ice and with -1 C ice) When I tried to search on the internet I couldn't find any specific formula or any article because I guess I couldn't explain what I want to do in a few words. (English is not my mother tongue and there are no articles in my language about this I checked them) Can you help me to find something and also does the refractive index change with the temperature of ice? I guess it will because of the molecular formula changes but not sure :/
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I want to make an experiment about the refractive index of ice but this time I want to use different temperatures. (for example with -15 C ice and with -1 C ice) When I tried to search on the internet I couldn't find any specific formula or any article because I guess I couldn't explain what I want to do in a few words. (English is not my mother tongue and there are no articles in my language about this I checked them) Can you help me to find something and also does the refractive index change with the temperature of ice? I guess it will because of the molecular formula changes but not sure :/
 
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Normally I want to find the refractive index of ice but I want to solve it just with temperature. Lorenz-Lorenz equation is this (I hope)=

n is refractive index
d is density
e0 is the electric constant
Na is the avagadro constant
y is the molecular polarizability of one molecule
M is molar massK= [(n^2 - 1) / (n^2 + 2)] x (1/d)

K is also this:

K = (Pm / M) x 10^3

and Pm is this:

Pm = (1/ ( 3 x e0 )) x Na x y

When I know “ y “ I can find other things too because I found a database which tells me the density of ice with its temperature and I will use that information. But when I looked on the internet I have just found that I can not find directly the polarizability of one molecule of ice but there is an average value for that (I don’t know I am also looking if this is true). Can you please help me to find “ y “ or is there any other ways to find the refractive index with other equations maybe? I hope I can explain my problem.

(Sorry for the bad grammar mistakes or wrong words that I used, eng is not my mother tongue :/)
 

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