Differential equation (substitution)

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation problem involving substitution, specifically using the substitution \(y=Vx\). Participants are examining the steps taken to transform the equation and are questioning parts of the algebraic manipulation involved.

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  • The original poster attempts to identify where their calculations went wrong after obtaining conflicting results. Some participants suggest focusing on the reasoning behind the marks lost and the algebraic steps taken. Others inquire about the validity of specific manipulations and express concerns about the implications of certain integral forms.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem and clarifying the legality of certain mathematical moves. There is an exploration of different interpretations of the steps involved, but no consensus has been reached regarding the original poster's specific errors.

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for this question , i 've got my positive 9 but i got -64 , can anyone tell me which part is wrong?

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Note: The way to get the most out of this site is to write about how you are thinking about the problem - then we can focus on why you lost so many marks and fix that for the future.
 
And type the equations here instead of graphics on alternate sites.
 
sorry, i posted at the wrong section, , but i hope you can look at it and help! here's the question and working attached..hope you can help!
can i do it in this way? please refer to the red circled part

if i can't do it in such way, can you please show me how do u get the ans please? thanks in advance!
 

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Problem statement reads:
Using substitution ##y=Vx##, change the DE $$(x^3+xy^2)\frac{dy}{dx}=y^3+yx^2$$... to $$x\frac{dV}{dx}=\frac{-2V}{1+V^2}$$... and show that the solution is $$\ln\left|\frac{xy}{2}\right| = \frac{(x-2y)(x+2y)}{8x^2}$$ is ##x=2## when ##y=1##.

Good grief!

Well the first part comes from making the sub and then a bit of algebra.
You could have canceled the x^3 out much earlier than you did (like your 3rd line).
But you made it - well done.

For the next bit you basically started with separation of variables: $$\int \frac{dx}{x} =\int \frac{1+V^2}{-2V}dV$$... then you wrote:$$-2\int \frac{\frac{1}{2}dx}{\frac{1}{2}x} =\int \frac{1+V^2}{V}dV$$... which is the bit in red. It's a legal move.
You seem concerned that $$\int \frac{\frac{1}{2}dx}{\frac{1}{2}x}=\ln\left|\frac{1}{2}x\right|+c$$ ##\qquad\qquad## ... instead of ##\ln|x|## but this is fine.

Recall: ##\ln|\frac{1}{2}x|## differs from ##\ln|x|## by a constant that gets hidden in that "+c" on the end.
 

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