Differential equations problem

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The discussion centers on solving the initial value problem (IVP) represented by the differential equation xy' - y = 3xe^(2y/x) with the condition y(1) = -1. Participants clarify the equation's structure and emphasize the complexity introduced by the exponential term. A suggested approach involves finding an integrating factor I(X) = e^x, which simplifies the problem. The conversation highlights the necessity of substitution techniques to facilitate the solution process.

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solve the following ivp
xy' - y = 3xe^2y/x
y(1)=-1

how can i get rid of e ? does anybody help me ?
thanks in advance.
 
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I assume that e is just the Euler number 2.7...
Why would you want to get rid of it? And why then don't you ask: "how can I get rid of 3?"
 
It's hard to read what you wrote. Do you mean: xy' - y = \frac{3xe^2y}{x}?
 
It should be xy' - y = 3xe^{2y/x}
I guess i need to study more thanks for your help.
 
Ah, so the equation is
<br /> x y&#039; - y = 3 x \exp\left[ \frac{2y}{x} \right]<br /> &lt;br /&gt; ... that makes the problem significantly more complex &lt;img src=&quot;https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png&quot; class=&quot;smilie smilie--emoji&quot; loading=&quot;lazy&quot; width=&quot;64&quot; height=&quot;64&quot; alt=&quot;:smile:&quot; title=&quot;Smile :smile:&quot; data-smilie=&quot;1&quot;data-shortname=&quot;:smile:&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I&amp;#039;m not even sure there is an exact solution.
 
For the IVP problem, you should find I(X)
you may get I(x)=e^x dx
then you multiply I(X) on both sides and you can solve the problem i guess
 
CompuChip said:
... that makes the problem significantly more complex :smile:.
On the contrary, it suggests an obvious thing to try. And due to good fortune*, it works.

Really, this is one of those problems that (at least for the beginner) should fall into the category of "this looks complicated -- there is only one thing I could possibly do, and I just have to hope it works".


*: Okay, fine, it's more likely that it was rigged to work. :wink:
 
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It takes a substitution to make things a lot easier as Hurkyl said.
 

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