Differential Equations Problem

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The discussion centers on solving a differential equation where the rate of change of P with respect to t is proportional to 10-t. The initial attempt at the solution led to confusion regarding the presence of a negative sign in the answer, which was clarified through the use of u-substitution during integration. It was revealed that the correct formulation should indicate that the rate of change is inversely proportional to 10-t, which aligns with the teacher's answer. The integration method used was crucial in obtaining the correct result, highlighting the importance of proper techniques in solving differential equations. Ultimately, understanding the integration process resolved the discrepancy in the answers.
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Homework Statement


This is actually a question we went over in class, but I kind of spaced out when my teacher was explaining it. I have since solved it myself while I was reviewing for my calculus test, but when I compared my answer with the answer key my teacher provided to our class, I found out my answer was wrong. Here's the question.

"Write and solve the differential equation that models the statement in the following problem.

The rate of change of P with respect to t is proportional to 10-t."

Homework Equations


I should add that this is part of our chapter involving exponential growth and decay.


The Attempt at a Solution


Now, I understand how to do this particular problem. You essentially start off with the following differential equation:

dP/dt = K/(10-t)

You then multiply the dt over to isolate all the t variable expressions on the right side.

dP = [K/(10-t)]dt

Then you would take an indefinite integral of both sides respectively. The problem is, my teacher says that the answer should be:

P = -K*ln|10-t| + C

When I solved this on my own, I produced the same result essentially, just without a negative sign in front of the K constant. Am I missing something here? Could someone please explain to me why there should be a negative sign or did my teacher make a mistake?
 
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Daweih said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Now, I understand how to do this particular problem. You essentially start off with the following differential equation:

dP/dt = K/(10-t)

You then multiply the dt over to isolate all the t variable expressions on the right side.

dP = [K/(10-t)]dt

Then you would take an indefinite integral of both sides respectively. The problem is, my teacher says that the answer should be:

P = -K*ln|10-t| + C

When I solved this on my own, I produced the same result essentially, just without a negative sign in front of the K constant. Am I missing something here? Could someone please explain to me why there should be a negative sign or did my teacher make a mistake?
Did you integrate the right side using u-substitution? After you use that method, the negative will appear in the answer.
 
Ah, no. I didn't. I tried integrating using substitution just now, and it worked. >.<
Thank you for pointing that out to me. It makes sense now.
 
Daweih said:

Homework Statement


This is actually a question we went over in class, but I kind of spaced out when my teacher was explaining it. I have since solved it myself while I was reviewing for my calculus test, but when I compared my answer with the answer key my teacher provided to our class, I found out my answer was wrong. Here's the question.

"Write and solve the differential equation that models the statement in the following problem.

The rate of change of P with respect to t is proportional to 10-t."

Homework Equations


I should add that this is part of our chapter involving exponential growth and decay.

The Attempt at a Solution


Now, I understand how to do this particular problem. You essentially start off with the following differential equation:

dP/dt = K/(10-t)

When you say ##y## is proportional to ##x## that means there is a constant ##k## such that ##y=kx##. So if the rate of change of ##P## is proportional to ##10-t##, then ##\frac{dP}{dt}= k(10-t)##. So you either are solving the problem wrong or stated the problem you are solving wrong.
 
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That's my mistake. I stated the problem incorrectly. It should say "inversely proportional". But regardless, eumyang pointed out what I was missing. I didn't use the substitution method to integrate the differential equation, so I never produced that negative sign.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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