Differentiating Under Integral Sign

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of an integral involving an exponential function, specifically the integral I(α) = ∫₀ⁿ e^{-(x² + α/x²)} dx. Participants explore the process of differentiating under the integral sign, substitutions for integration, and the implications of these operations on the evaluation of the integral.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral I(α) and attempts to differentiate it under the integral sign, leading to a new expression involving a negative integral.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the differentiation process and notes the absence of "dx" in the integral notation.
  • A participant emphasizes the need for proper notation and confirms the differentiation result, questioning whether the integration is required.
  • Substitutions are proposed, such as u = sqrt(a)/x, to facilitate the integration process, with references to the Gaussian integral.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the next steps after deriving expressions for I'(α) and its relationship to I(α).
  • There is mention of a differential equation derived from the relationship between I'(α) and I(α), which some participants aim to solve.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the differentiation process and the need for proper notation, but there remains uncertainty regarding the subsequent steps in solving the derived differential equation and the evaluation of the integral.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion over the integration steps and the implications of the substitutions made, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the mathematical framework involved.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in advanced calculus, particularly those exploring techniques of differentiation under the integral sign and related mathematical concepts.

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I(α) = 0∫e-(x2+α/x2) dx

Differentiating under the integral sign leads to:

I(α) = 0∫-e-(x2+α/x2)/x2 dx

Here I am supposed to let u = sqrt(a)/x, but the -x2 doesn't cancel out,

Wolfram-Alpha tells me the answer is: e(-2 sqrt(α) sqrt(π))/(2 sqrt(α)). I understand where the sqrt(π))/(2)sqrt(α) comes from, but not the 2 sqrt(α)) in the numerator.

Thanks!
 
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Differentiating what with respect to what, and why?
Your integral is missing something ("dx"?).
 
First, please, please, please, include a "dx" in the integral!
Yes, the derivative, with respect to "a", of [itex]\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2- a/x^2}dx[/itex] is [itex]-\int_0^\infty \frac{e^{-x^2- a/x^3}}{x^2}dx[/itex].

Is your question about actually doing that integration? Are you required to?
 
Yes, with dx. Sorry! (Also, how do you format equations?)

For this problem, I am supposed to find I(1) using u = sqrt(x)/a and the answer is e-2sqrt(π)/2 .
 
You have ##\displaystyle l(a)=\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2- a/x^2}dx##
Then ##\displaystyle l'(a)=-\int_0^\infty \frac{e^{-x^2- a/x^2}}{x^2}dx##
Apply the substitution ##u=\frac{\sqrt a}{x}## to this last integral, and compare what you get with the expression for ##l(a)##.
This will give you an easy differential equation for ##l##.

You will have to use the value of the Gaussian integral at some point:
##\displaystyle l(0)=\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2}dx=\frac{\sqrt \pi}{2}##.

iggyonphysics said:
Also, how do you format equations?
See the LaTeX link at the bottom left of the edit box.
 
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Samy_A said:
You have ##\displaystyle l(a)=\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2- a/x^2}dx##
Then ##\displaystyle l'(a)=-\int_0^\infty \frac{e^{-x^2- a/x^2}}{x^2}dx##
Apply the substitution ##u=\frac{\sqrt a}{x}## to this last integral, and compare what you get with the expression for ##l(a)##.
This will give you an easy differential equation for ##l##.

You will have to use the value of the Gaussian integral at some point:
##\displaystyle l(0)=\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2}dx=\frac{\sqrt \pi}{2}##.

See the LaTeX link at the bottom left of the edit box.
Right, so I have [itex]I'(α) = 1/\sqrt{α}\int_0^∞ e^{-x^2 - u^2} du = 1/\sqrt{α}\int_0^∞ e^{-a/u^2 - u^2} du[/itex], which looks just like the [itex]l(a)=\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2- a/x^2}dx[/itex]

I don't understand what to do next.
 
iggyonphysics said:
Right, so I have [itex]I'(α) = 1/\sqrt{α}\int_0^∞ e^{-x^2 - u^2} du = 1/\sqrt{α}\int_0^∞ e^{-a/u^2 - u^2} du[/itex], which looks just like the [itex]l(a)=\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2- a/x^2}dx[/itex]

I don't understand what to do next.
I also have a minus sign, giving:

##\displaystyle I'(\alpha)=-\frac{1}{\sqrt \alpha}\int_0^\infty e^{-x^2- \alpha /x^2}dx=-\frac{1}{\sqrt \alpha}I(\alpha)##

Now solve the differential equation ##I'(\alpha)=-\frac{1}{\sqrt \alpha}I(\alpha)##.
 
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Got it, thanks so much!
 

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