Differentiating x2 w.r.t Time: Must I Differentiate \dot x?

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The original poster is working on differentiating the expression x² with respect to time t, where x is a time-dependent variable. They are exploring whether they need to differentiate the term \dot x, which represents the derivative of x with respect to time, in their calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation process and the notation used, questioning the necessity of differentiating \dot x. There are suggestions on how to write the expression more clearly to avoid ambiguity.

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Participants are engaged in clarifying the notation and discussing the implications of differentiating x² with respect to time. Some guidance has been offered regarding the expression's clarity, but there is no explicit consensus on the necessity of differentiating \dot x.

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There is some ambiguity in the notation used by the original poster, which has led to varied interpretations among participants. The discussion reflects a focus on proper mathematical expression rather than reaching a definitive solution.

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Hi all.

I have a time-dependent variable called x. I wish to differentiate x2 with respect to the time t, and this is what I have done:

[tex] \frac{d}{dt}x^2 = \frac{d}{dx}x^2\frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{d}{dx}x^2\dot x.[/tex]

where the dot over x denotes differentiation with respect to time t. Now my question is, must I differentiate [itex]\dot x[/itex] also with respect to x, since it is standing on its right side?
 
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Nah you dont. It is a little bit ambiguous how you have written it, but in this context it is just d(x^2)/dx MULTIPLED by x dot.
 
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How is the proper way to write it then?

Thanks for replying.
 
Its not that how you have written it is wrong, it is just that it could possibly be misinterpreted. I personally would have witten it with the x dot on the other side of the derivative operator just so there will be no confusion:

[tex] <br /> \dot x \frac{d}{dx} x^2<br /> [/tex]
 
Better would be
[tex]\dot{x}\frac{dx^2}{dx}[/tex]
or just
[tex]\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)\left(\frac{dx^2}{dx}\right)[/tex]

Now, what is
[tex]\frac{d x^2}{dx}[/tex]?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Now, what is
[tex]\frac{d x^2}{dx}[/tex]?

Ahh, now you are just teasing me :smile:

Thanks to all for helping.
 
I don't think Halls was teasing - you shouldn't leave it as dx^2/dx. I think you understand, but I'm not 100% certain.
 
The reason why I didn't evaluate it in my first post was because I wasn't sure if I had to differentiate [itex]\dot x[/itex] as well, but now I would of course just write 2x instead.
 

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