Differentiation of Log(cos(X)/x^2)^2

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the expression \( \left[\log\left( \frac{\cos(x)}{x^2}\right)\right]^2 \). Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule, logarithmic properties, and the quotient rule in their attempts to find the derivative.

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  • Some participants attempt to apply the chain rule and logarithmic identities to simplify the differentiation process. Others raise questions about the correctness of their approaches and the simplification of resulting expressions.

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There is a mix of attempts to verify and correct each other's methods, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations. A few have suggested alternative approaches, such as simplifying the logarithmic expression before differentiation. The discussion remains open with no clear consensus on the best method.

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Participants note the ambiguity in the original expression and the importance of consistent variable usage throughout the discussion. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of differentiation rules and the simplification of terms.

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Homework Statement
Differentiate
Relevant Equations
Log(cos(X)/x^2)^2
Im going by the chain rule.
I let y=log(t)^2.
T=cos^2x/x^2Dy/DT is 2/t * log(t)
Dt/DX is (sin(2x)/X )((sinx+cosx)/X)
Can someone verify this is the correct way ? As when I multiply dydt by dtdx I get an equation I don't know how to simplify
 
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Never mind solved
 
Anne5632 said:
Homework Statement:: Differentiate
Relevant Equations:: Log(cos(X)/x^2)^2
This expression (it's not an equation) is somewhat ambiguous. Just to verify, is this what you're working with?
$$y = \left[\log\left( \frac {\cos(x)}{x^2}\right)\right]^2$$
Anne5632 said:
Im going by the chain rule.
I let y=log(t)^2.
T=cos^2x/x^2
You need to use more than just the chain rule. I used, in this order, the chain rule, derivative of log, and quotient rule.
Anne5632 said:
Dy/DT is 2/t * log(t)
(Edited to correct my error)
No. If ##y = (\log(t))^2##, then ##\frac{dy}{dt} = 2\cdot \log(t) \frac d{dt} \log(t) = 2\frac {\log(t)} t##
Also, try to be more consistent in your use of variables. You have x, X, t, T, Dy/DT, dydt, dtdx, Dt/DX.
Anne5632 said:
Dt/DX is (sin(2x)/X )((sinx+cosx)/X)
Can someone verify this is the correct way ? As when I multiply dydt by dtdx I get an equation I don't know how to simplify
I don't get anything close to this.
 
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I would start from <br /> (\log(\cos(x)/x^2))^2 = (\log(\cos(x)) - 2 \log x)^2 and use <br /> \frac{d}{dx} g(x)^2 = 2g(x) \frac{dg}{dx}.
 
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Yea instead of making it hard and doing chain in the beginning I simplified with rules of logs
 
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Anne5632 said:
Yea instead of making it hard and doing chain in the beginning I simplified with rules of logs.
You, of course, should be able to do it both ways, and it can be good practice to see how to transform/simplify one answer into the other.

Mark44 said:
No. If ##y = (\log(t))^2##, then ##\frac{dy}{dt} = 2\cdot \frac d{dt} \log(t) = \frac 2 t##
@Anne5632 had it right. You're still going to have a ##(\log t)^1## when you apply the chain rule.

Mark44 said:
I don't get anything close to this.
Neither did I.
 
Mark44 said:
No. If ##y = (\log(t))^2##, then ##\frac{dy}{dt} = 2\cdot \frac d{dt} \log(t) = \frac 2 t##
vela said:
@Anne5632 had it right. You're still going to have a ##(\log t)^1## when you apply the chain rule.
You're right. It should have been ##2\cdot \log(t) \cdot \frac d{dt} \log(t) = 2 \frac{\log(t)} t##.
 

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