Difficult rational expressions thinking question

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The discussion revolves around finding the values of B and C in the equation \(\frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}\). Participants are exploring methods to solve for these variables through algebraic manipulation and identity verification.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss equating coefficients from both sides of the equation after expanding it. Some suggest substituting specific values for x to create a system of equations. Others express confusion about the algebraic steps and the implications of the identity.

Discussion Status

Multiple methods for solving the problem have been proposed, including equating coefficients and substituting values. Some participants have successfully derived equations for B and C, while others are seeking clarification on the algebraic processes involved. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the initial setup of the problem.

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Participants are navigating through algebraic identities and the implications of variable relationships. There is a noted concern about the accuracy of the original equation setup, with some participants questioning the arrangement of B and C in the expressions.

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Homework Statement



Find the Values of B and C given this:
<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}<br />

Homework Equations



The equation given:<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt:
<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}<br />
<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B(2x+1)+C(7x-3)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}<br />
<br /> 3x-18=B(2x+1)+C(7x-3)<br />
At this point I'm stuck and I think something I did was wrong.
I'd appreciate any assistance that could be provided!
 
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AvocadosNumber said:

Homework Statement



Find the Values of B and C given this:
<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}<br />

Homework Equations



The equation given:<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt:
<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}<br />
<br /> \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B(2x+1)+C(7x-3)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}<br />
<br /> 3x-18=B(2x+1)+C(7x-3)<br />
At this point I'm stuck and I think something I did was wrong.
I'd appreciate any assistance that could be provided!
If your last equation
<br /> 3x-18=B(2x+1)+C(7x-3)<br />​
is true for all values of x, then the initial rational equation
\displaystyle \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3}<br />​
will be true for all x except 3/7 and -1/2 .

There are at least a couple of ways to solve the identity
<br /> 3x-18=B(2x+1)+C(7x-3)<br />​
for B & C.

One is to pick a couple of values for x, which will give you two equations in the two unknowns, B & C. One such value is x = -1/2 .

Another method is to equate the coefficient of x on the left with the coefficient of x on the right; also equate the constant term on the left with the constant term on the right.
 
Hi, Thank You so much for your response. I was just wondering if you could clarify what you meant by this:
SammyS said:
Another method is to equate the coefficient of x on the left with the coefficient of x on the right; also equate the constant term on the left with the constant term on the right.

I apologize my math vocab is weak.
 
He means that you can expand 3x−18=B(2x+1)+C(7x−3) as 3x-18=2Bx+B+7Cx-3C. Cleaning this up a bit, we get 3x-18=(2B+7C)x+(B-3C). Two polynomials are equal only if their corresponding coefficients are equal, we get 3x=2B+7C and -18=B-3C. This is a system of equations which you should be able to sove.
 
HS-Scientist said:
we get 3x=2B+7C and -18=B-3C. This is a system of equations which you should be able to solve.

But don't I have 3 variables still?
 
I am sorry, there should be no x there. If 3x=(2B+7C)x, then 3=2B+7C. I apologize for not using latex, I am just beginning to learn as I am new to these forums.
 
AvocadosNumber said:
Hi, Thank You so much for your response. I was just wondering if you could clarify what you meant by this:

Another method is to equate the coefficient of x on the left with the coefficient of x on the right; also equate the constant term on the left with the constant term on the right.

I apologize my math vocab is weak.

If you expand the right side & collect terms, you get
\displaystyle (2B+7C)x+(B-3C)\,,\ right?​

So, the coefficient of x on the left, which is 3 must equal the coefficient of x on the right, which is 2B+7C . Similarly, the constant term on the left must equal the constant term on the right.

These must be equal because, the equation, \displaystyle \ 3x-18=B(2x+1)+C(7x-3)\ is true for all possible values of x, thus this equation is an identity.
 
Hi! Thank you both for responding.

I'm with you guys so far until here:
3x−18=(2B+7C)x+(B−3C){}

I don't quite understand why 3x must only equal (2B+7C)x.

After I try and solve this is what I get. Is everything I did okay because I don't know and method of verifying if this is right (not from a textbook)?

-18=B-3C
B=-18+3C

3x=(2B+7C)x
3=2B+7C
sub in B=-18+3C
3=2(-18+3C)+7C
3=-36+6C+7C
39=13C
C=3

B=-18+3C
B=-18+3(3)
B=-18+9
B=-9

∴B=-9 and C=3
 
AvocadosNumber said:
Hi! Thank you both for responding.

I'm with you guys so far until here:
3x−18=(2B+7C)x+(B−3C){}

I don't quite understand why 3x must only equal (2B+7C)x.

After I try and solve this is what I get. Is everything I did okay because I don't know and method of verifying if this is right (not from a textbook)?

-18=B-3C
B=-18+3C

3x=(2B+7C)x
3=2B+7C
sub in B=-18+3C
3=2(-18+3C)+7C
3=-36+6C+7C
39=13C
C=3

B=-18+3C
B=-18+3(3)
B=-18+9
B=-9

∴B=-9 and C=3

Yes, you solved it right. But \frac{(3x-18)}{(2x+1)(7x-3)}= \frac{B}{2x+1} + \frac{C}{7x-3} actually leads to the equation 3x-18=B(7x-3)+C(2x+1) Which is not what you originally posted. The B and C are backwards.

As to your first question Ax+B=Cx+D for all values of x means A=C and B=D. Can you show that?
 
  • #10
Dick said:
Ax+B=Cx+D for all values of x means A=C and B=D.

Ah, I plugged in the values of B and C and the expressions on both sides were equal. And that quote clarified quite a lot.

Thank you so much to all of you for the help!
 
  • #11
Dick said:
.., actually leads to the equation 3x-18=B(7x-3)+C(2x+1) Which is not what you originally posted. The B and C are backwards.
...
Sorry. I didn't check the details.
 

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