Dimension of 4x4 Matrix: Find Basis Vectors

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The discussion revolves around determining the dimension of a 4x4 matrix and identifying a set of basis vectors for it. Participants express confusion regarding the definition of "dimension" in the context of matrices, particularly distinguishing between rank and nullity.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss reducing the matrix to row echelon form and relate the dimension to the rank of the matrix. There is uncertainty about the meaning of dimension, with some suggesting it might refer to the number of non-zero elements or the nullity. Questions are raised about how different sources define "dimension of a matrix."

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the term "dimension." Some have offered insights about the relationship between rank and dimension, while others are questioning the terminology used in their studies.

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There is mention of potential confusion stemming from different definitions encountered in textbooks and lectures, particularly regarding the terms "dimension" and "nullity." Participants are encouraged to consider how their course materials define these terms.

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Homework Statement


A= \begin{bmatrix}1 & 1 & 1 & 1 \\ 2 & 1 & 0 & -1 \\ 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 \\ -1 &2 &1&0 \end{bmatrix}Determine the dimension of A and give a set of basis vectors for A.


Homework Equations


Dimension of matrix, ref form of matrix.


The Attempt at a Solution


I reduced the matrix to row echelon form and then the dimension = rank of matrix. Is that correct? I am quite confused about what dimension means. In a 4x4 matrix, maybe dimension is 16? or is it the number of non-zero matrix elements?
 
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Easy way to remember it is:

# of columns - # of non zero rows in rref
 
So, the dimension of A is the rank of the matrix A?
 
Yes. In fact, I would consider the term "dimension of a matrix" very strange. The rank of a matrix is the dimension of the image of the matrix.
 
I think by dimension you mean "nullity" cause our lecturer also used "dimension of a matrix" which was confusing when studying from other sources.

Try plugging your matrix in wolfram and ask for nullity.

In the output it states a "dimension" which is always exactly what I always needed. So maybe that's what it means.
 
sharks said:

Homework Statement


A= \begin{bmatrix}1 & 1 & 1 & 1 \\ 2 & 1 & 0 & -1 \\ 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 \\ -1 &2 &1&0 \end{bmatrix}Determine the dimension of A and give a set of basis vectors for A.


Homework Equations


Dimension of matrix, ref form of matrix.


The Attempt at a Solution


I reduced the matrix to row echelon form and then the dimension = rank of matrix. Is that correct? I am quite confused about what dimension means. In a 4x4 matrix, maybe dimension is 16? or is it the number of non-zero matrix elements?

How does your textbook or lecturer or course notes define the term "dimension of a matrix"?

RGV
 

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