Dimensionless value to differentiate between concentrated and dispersed

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A dimensionless value is sought to differentiate concentrated mass systems like the solar system from dispersed systems such as galaxies, assuming spherical and radial symmetry. One proposed method involves calculating the sum of each mass multiplied by its distance, normalized to create a dimensionless metric. The discussion highlights the challenge of defining such a value without a clear purpose, suggesting that localized objects could be assigned a value of 1, while diffuse objects might receive a value of 0, with fractional values for intermediate states. There is skepticism about deriving a dimensionless value from physical parameters, raising questions about its practical application. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity on the intended use of the proposed dimensionless value.
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Find a dimensionless value to differentiate between concentrated and dispersed mass systems
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Newtonian mechanics
I want to find a dimensionless value that differentiates between concentrated mass systems such as the solar system and dispersed mass systems such as a galaxy. I assume spherical and radial symmetry, consider both the cases for point masses or smooth mass distributions.

The only value I can think of is the sum of multiplying each mass by its distance, but then I have to normalize this by some mass*distance to make it dimensionless.

Is there any other alternative?
 
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For what purpose? It is hard to define such a thing without knowing what it will be used for.
For example: in the absense of elaboration, I offer the following:
1 for localized objects such as stars, and 0 for diffuse objects such as gas clouds.
Fractional values can serve for in-between states, such as rock piles.
 
DaveC426913 said:
For what purpose? It is hard to define such a thing without knowing what it will be used for.
For example: in the absense of elaboration, I offer the following:
1 for localized objects such as stars, and 0 for diffuse objects such as gas clouds.
Fractional values can serve for in-between states, such as rock piles.
Hi Dave,

I need a dimensionless value based of physical parameters to differentiate between concentrated mass systems such as the solar system and dispersed mass systems such as a galaxy.

I do not understand your proposal. Although it is a dimensionless value, how can it be derived from physical parameters?
 
I want to find the solution to the integral ##\theta = \int_0^{\theta}\frac{du}{\sqrt{(c-u^2 +2u^3)}}## I can see that ##\frac{d^2u}{d\theta^2} = A +Bu+Cu^2## is a Weierstrass elliptic function, which can be generated from ##\Large(\normalsize\frac{du}{d\theta}\Large)\normalsize^2 = c-u^2 +2u^3## (A = 0, B=-1, C=3) So does this make my integral an elliptic integral? I haven't been able to find a table of integrals anywhere which contains an integral of this form so I'm a bit stuck. TerryW

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